Ep. #189: What Are Your Dream Stealers? Clearing the Blocks to Your Soul Blueprint with LeSanné
What if the thing blocking your dream is not a lack of desire, discipline, or worthiness?
What if it is an unconscious belief, emotional pattern, or old energetic imprint that was never truly yours to begin with?
In this episode of The Energy Fix, Tansy sits down with LeSanné for a powerful conversation about dream stealers, unconscious beliefs, emotional patterns, energy frequency, and what it means to align with your soul blueprint.
LeSanné shares how unconscious beliefs are often installed early in life and can quietly shape how we see ourselves, what we believe is possible, how we relate to others, and how much joy, love, success, or freedom we allow ourselves to receive.
Together, they explore the idea of distorted identity data, the emotional patterns stored in the shadow self, and how trauma can continue influencing our energetic state long after the original experience has passed. LeSanné also explains the difference between the law of attraction and the law of resonance, and why our frequency plays such an important role in what we create and experience.
This conversation also moves into the heart as the center of our unique frequency, the importance of sovereignty and self-trust, and LeSanné’s Quantum Soul Sync Method for clearing root patterns and reconnecting with soul intelligence.
This episode is a reminder that your friction points are not proof that you are failing.
They may be the very portals showing you where your energy is ready to heal, clear, and come back into alignment.
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What We Cover
In this episode, we talk about:
What dream stealers are and how they form
How unconscious beliefs can sabotage adult life
Why childhood experiences can shape our identity, self-worth, and patterns
Distorted identity data and the shadow self
How trauma and emotional patterns can influence our energetic state
The role of frequency and vibration in manifestation
The difference between the law of attraction and the law of resonance
Why the heart is connected to your unique frequency and soul intelligence
How friction points can become portals for healing and transformation
The importance of self-awareness and mindfulness in recognizing patterns
Sovereignty, personal power, and trusting your inner guidance
The Quantum Soul Sync Method and clearing root causes
Why choosing a better-feeling thought can support emotional healing
Awakening to your soul blueprint and your deeper purpose
Key Takeaways
Dream stealers are often unconscious beliefs and emotional patterns
Many limiting beliefs are formed early in life
These beliefs can distort self-worth, relationships, and what we believe is possible
Emotional frequencies influence what we experience and attract
Trauma can remain stored in the shadow and shape our reality
The law of resonance helps explain why we attract experiences that match our energetic state
Friction points can reveal where healing and transformation are needed
Your heart is connected to your unique frequency and soul intelligence
Sovereignty means reclaiming your personal power and inner guidance
Self-awareness is essential for noticing patterns and choosing differently
Raising your frequency can help you align with higher-quality experiences
Your soul blueprint is discovered through awareness, awakening, and lived experience
Love and heart energy are among the highest frequencies we can access
Emotional healing begins with awareness, compassion, and choosing the next better-feeling thought
Favorite Quotes
A few moments you’ll want to remember:
“Your heart is your unique frequency.”
“Your friction point is your portal.”
“Frequency vanquishes all.”
“Dream stealers are installed in our early childhood.”
“Thoughts held in mind produce after their own kind.”
“The journey’s never finished, is it?”
“We all have a soul blueprint.”
“We must let the falling away happen.”
“Your heart is your soul intelligence.”
“Frequency is everything.”
“Sovereignty is not about controlling everything.”
Chapters
00:00 – Energy Frequencies and Unconscious Patterns
04:10 – What Dream Stealers Are and How They Form
05:55 – Clearing Distorted Identity Data
08:45 – The Heart as Your Unique Frequency
12:24 – Trauma, Family Patterns & Energy Blocks
16:20 – Raising Your Frequency to Manifest
20:58 – Repetition, Patterns & Manifestation
27:23 – Friction Points as Portals for Growth
34:27 – Discovering Your Soul Blueprint
41:23 – Asking, Receiving & Sovereignty
44:34 – The Quantum Soul Sync Method
Why This Episode Matters
Because sometimes the thing standing between you and the life you want is not obvious.
It may show up as:
repeating the same relationship patterns
doubting your worth or your ability to receive
feeling stuck even when you are doing “all the right things”
wanting something deeply but blocking it at the same time
carrying emotional heaviness that feels bigger than the present moment
feeling disconnected from your joy, your power, or your inner knowing
And when this happens, it can be easy to assume the problem is you. That you are not disciplined enough, healed enough, clear enough, or even ready enough.
This episode matters because LeSanné brings a different perspective: what if these patterns are not who you are, but old frequencies, unconscious beliefs, and distorted identity data asking to be seen and cleared?
This conversation reminds us that friction is not always a stop sign! Sometimes it’s an invitation to return to your heart and reclaim your sovereignty. And, to stop handing your power to old stories and start trusting the wisdom of your own soul!
About LeSanné
If you asked Sanné (pronounced senyay) Lind at four years old what she wanted to be when she grew up, she had a one-word answer: a teacher. That lifelong hunger for understanding led her to devour psychology books by age 12, led to six years of deep-diving into consciousness, comparative religion, and mysticism at JFK University in the 80's. But while she was studying the heights of human spirit, she was privately navigating the depths of darkness - spending two decades battling clinical depression, reliant on prescriptions, and "circling the drain" while masking it perfectly to the outside world. Even as she trained as an interfaith minister, prayer chaplain, and shamanic student, the breakthrough taunted her.
Then, a devastating family tragedy - the loss of her sister to suicide - triggered a profound soul awakening. Recalling Carl Jung’s warning that we must make the unconscious conscious lest it direct our lives as "fate," and Socrates assertion that an unexamined life is not worth living. Sanné took radical responsibility for her own energetic states. She integrated her ancient wisdom studies with cutting-edge neuroscience and quantum physics, reclaimed her innate role as a teacher/ uplifter, and developed the Quantum Soul Sync Method. Today, she is a certified coach, practitioner, and author of the new book, SI: Soul Intelligence For Quantum Results :Essential living from the Inside Out! She's dedicated to helping others 'rewire' their brains, open their hearts, and step into true joy and fulfillment.
Links Mentioned In The Show
Website & Get Your Hands On Her Book! https://quantumsoulsync.com/
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If this episode resonated, take a moment to ask yourself:
What friction point in my life might actually be showing me where I am ready to heal?
Something in your energy may be ready to shift. And, sometimes the places that feel the most frustrating are the places where your soul is trying to get your attention.
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Transcript
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LeSanné (00:00.086)
And that we can have a clearing of those energy frequencies that are running that we don't know are running. That's how we get what we don't want and we can't figure out why am I getting this what I don't want? You don't even know the frequency is running. And the frequency is what is beating through your heart. Your heart is your unique frequency.
emitting into the universal divine organizing force that brings to you the people, places, and things that equal that same pattern frequency. So you'll get the same relationship over and over, just a different face. And you're like, here I am again with this unavailable partner. You know what, you know, how am I you you just aren't making the correlation to something in your unconscious operating system.
Tansy Rodgers (01:01.56)
Welcome back to the Energy Fix, a podcast dedicated to help you balance your energetic body by diving deep into the sweet world of all things health and spirituality. My name's Tansy, and I'm an intuitive Crystal Reiki energy healer, energetic nutrition and holistic health practitioner, and a crystal jewelry designer. It's time to talk all things energy. Let's dive in.
Welcome back to the Energy Fix Podcast. Thank you so much for being here again with us today. I appreciate you being here and just diving into these beautiful conversations. And today we have another incredible conversation. We're going to be talking all about the dream stealers that we don't always see coming in our lives. In this conversation, we are diving deeper than the busy schedules and the lack of
Or the thing that we blame on quote unquote bad timing, we're gonna be diving deeper into the unconscious beliefs, old emotional patterns, hidden stories, energetic states that really just shape what we think is actually possible for us. I want to name that part of this conversation because that part of this conversation may touch on depression or grief and the loss of a loved one to suicide. So
Please take care of yourself as you listen. And if there is any triggers, I invite you just to stop and pause and come back when you're ready. My guest today is LeSanné She is a certified coach, practitioner, author, and lifelong teacher of consciousness, energy, and inner transformation. After spending decades studying psychology, comparative religion, mysticism.
shamatic work, neuroscience, and quantum principles, her own life brought her face to face with clinical depression, masking, which we talk about so much around here, but masking and a profound family tragedy that became part of her soul awakening. She is the creator of the quantum soul sink method and the author of SI.
Tansy Rodgers (03:24.264)
Soul intelligence for quantum results, essential living from the inside out, which we will be talking about in this conversation today. All right. LeSanné let's dive in. Welcome to the show.
LeSanné (03:39.086)
I'm so glad to be here, Tansy. All right.
Tansy Rodgers (03:41.506)
We're gonna start just by diving in. I wanna get to the heart of this conversation. Just to kind of feel into where you're at with this question. When you say dream stealers, what are the unconscious beliefs or energetic patterns that most often keep people from living the life that they truly want to live?
LeSanné (04:10.584)
The dream stealers are installed when we are young in our developmental years. We I call them the dream stealers because they're false identity data that is installed and it is installed because the feelings are so painful when we come to the conclusion that we are not enough.
That we are not good enough, or possibly we're just too much. We're not allowed. I'm not good enough. I'm stupid. I'm ugly. I'm not welcome. there's something wrong with me. I can't, I don't know. I'm you know, on and on and on. Those are conclusions that we came to in our early childhood.
From the experiences that we had, and that conclusion was too painful for that young soul's understanding at the time. So it was put, placed, literally placed in the unconscious, in what now we call the shadow area of our operating system. And that's what is distorting the the the cash of your operating system. So my
My method is what I call clearing the cache of the distorted identity data of I'm not good enough, there's something wrong with me, I'm broken, I'm not lovable, on and on and on. Everyone has their own unique cocktail of those dream stealers. And anything that is identifying you as less than or inappropriate in any way, that's a dream stealer pattern, what I call a program.
in your operating system that is a friction point for you, it will trigger a defense. And as we know, defense can be fight, flight, flee, feign, or fix. And so when we are triggered to run away from that feeling,
LeSanné (06:20.076)
That's a dream stealer. When you get that rush, that adrenaline rush of fear and and danger, that's from a past experience being triggered as though it's a current experience. And that's the distorted data. In neuroscience, they're called Cs, significant emotional events. Most people understand them as trauma, and trauma
throughout my life, I would say I I didn't have trauma, but I was suffering from PTSD almost my entire life. And I didn't know it until I understood what trauma actually was, and is simply a separation from your true nature, a conclusion that you yourself have made in a in an emotional moment, and the feelings were so unbearable because they're untrue, primarily because they're not the truth.
But you've concluded in this third-dimensional realm that you're inappropriate in some way and not acceptable. And whatever it is, I'm not good enough, I don't know, I can't, I'm broken, I'm irredeemable, somehow just not worthy, you know, in what any way at all. Those are the dream stealers that are running in the background of your operating system. This is what's so important and why I love the technological.
analogy of clearing the cache of the distorted data that was put in your operating system in the unconscious shadow realms of your of your operating system. And that we can have a clearing of those energy frequencies that are running that we don't know are running. That's how we get what we don't want and we can't figure out why am I getting this what I don't want.
You don't even know the frequency is running. And the frequency is what is beating through your heart. Your heart is your unique frequency, emitting into the universal divine organizing force that brings to you the people, places, and things that equal that same patterns, frequency. So you'll get the same relationship over and over, just a different face.
LeSanné (08:45.526)
You're like, here I am again with this unavailable partner. You know, what you know, how am I you you just aren't making the correlation to something in your unconscious operating system. And so studying Carl Jung and studying his
Where he actually got the foundations of his psychological doctrines through the Pista Sophia. He was a proud owner of the Pista Sophia. If you know of the Pista Sophia, it's a Gnostic text that was found in the desert in the late 1800s in Egypt, where all of the texts are being recovered and translated, currently being brought into the popular.
realm of understanding ourselves spiritually. And what is spirit? I always ask, what is spirit? What is being spiritual? You know, people might say, I'm I'm spiritual, not religious. And it's like, well, what is that? What is that you're doing? And and spirit is energy. And when you understand and actually insert the word energy, whenever you hear spirit or spiritual or spirituality, it's a
Understanding it's an understanding of your frequency that you are choosing in any given moment, and we want to ascend in the frequencies that we are inhabiting. And while we have the dream stealers laid over, I call it the lead blanket of the limiting beliefs, programs of I'm no good, I'm not whatever it is that I'm not, that's untrue.
We want to clear that energy so that our natural energy of love, joy, and peace can be present more often.
LeSanné (10:39.49)
So we we are attracting literally to ourselves by the resonance, the law of resonance. A lot of people call the law of attraction. It's the law of resonance.
That what you are emitting returns to you in kind. Thoughts held in mind produce after their own kind, but we don't know that those programs are running. I point back here because it's in, it's it's our blind spot. We we don't know what we don't know. And it took me a long, long time of decades of suffering and depression and anxiety to be snapped out of it.
Having had all the seeds planted for my rigorous studies of consciousness, mysticism, comparative religion, and trying to find a way, those seeds were all planted, but the water didn't hit the seed until I realized when my sister took her own life that the incomprehensibility of that situation.
was something that I could see I was circling the drain in my own suffering was so unbearable. My program of I'm not good enough, there's something wrong with me, whatever it is, that that program was taking me right down the drain, that she had gone down, and the mystical the mystice the most unusual part of that is that no one knew.
No one knew I was suffering at the depths I was suffering. No one knew she was suffering at the depths. She was suffering. Not a clue. Not even a a little crumb of a clue. So when that happened, it it it snapped me out of.
LeSanné (12:43.756)
This frequency that was running in my psyche of there's something wrong with me. And and I got to learn how to clear it. I was determined. I stopped all medication. I was determined to face my own demons, whatever was in there that needed to be cleared, because all I was doing with medication was subduing what needed to be done as a teacher.
I call myself a Sherpa Shaman. And I love those two words together. I like the feeling of saying them. The Sherpa is the guide, as you know, in the Himalayas that have been to the mountaintop and can show you how to get there because they've been up there many times and shown other people how to get up there. We always use this reference of up.
in frequency when we're talking about spirituality because spirituality is energy. Spirit is energy. What are you seeking as a spiritual being on the spiritual path? Up we want the frequency higher and higher and higher, not lower and lower and lower. But everything is on a spectrum. Everything is two sides of the same coin. This is the level of duality and free will.
So we get to choose and we we make that sound so simple and it's not what our frequency is in any given moment. But when we have cleared the cache of the distorted identity data, it's easier and easier to orient yourself towards higher and higher vibrational thoughts, because thoughts held in mind produce after their own kind.
And if we're getting what we don't want in life, or not enough of what we do want in life, and what we surely came here to experience, we must clear the lead blanket of the limiting beliefs that keeps our frequency low and sort of, yeah, it's okay. I'm doing okay, I'm fine. You know, I'm keeping keeping on, keeping on, as my grandfather always said.
LeSanné (15:02.414)
reorienting yourself towards the higher end of the spectrum feelings realm. And I have on my website a page of what I call the emotional ladder or the emotional scale that you can see what frequency different emotions are and where you are f most frequently in your emotional state is what you will then experience in your physical state, including your body and primarily your body.
respond to low frequency vibrations with all kinds of unknown, unidentifiable root causes, but the root cause is always in the in the shadow. It's always back there running, emitting, re returning to you the same people, places, and things. So whatever frequency you're in most frequently, that's what that's what you're experienced if you want to know what's going on.
So then the then the the determination of the spiritual notion is to raise our frequency, but we must first remove the lead blanket of the limiting belief frequencies in our operating system. So it's all possible, of course.
Tansy Rodgers (16:20.556)
And I love that we're talking about this all, the the trauma, no matter if it's a big T or a little T, these wounds, these unconscious belief systems that we have integrated into our physical mapping, our coding, right? Like I love that we're talking about this from a frequency level and a frequency perspective because that makes such a big difference. A quick break.
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Now, when we talk about the frequency, when we talk about the consciousness and the unconsciousness, now you've already mentioned Carl Jung.
Tansy Rodgers (18:22.51)
He has the idea that until we make the unconscious conscious, it directs our life as fate, right? It creates a certain energy and a certain frequency. So I would love for you to talk about how you see that play out in real life, in our relationships, our health, our money, confidence, purpose, whatever it is, right? I would love for you to kind of dive in and just talk about how that may actually show up so that.
The listener can get an idea of how it might be playing out in their life.
LeSanné (18:56.77)
Well look at the look at the same relationship with a different face.
I mentioned bef before when you find yourself in this same relationship pattern with a new person because that's the friction that you have come here to clear, to understand. That's not an accident. And we might feel unknowing, we might feel victimized by it, we might feel
Depressed by it.
And we want to use whatever feeling we're feeling to then reorient ourselves towards finding a way out of that feeling. And often
The feeling is so painful that we'll do anything to avoid it. So we scroll. We have 10 cups of coffee. We go shopping online wherever. We drink, we eat, we we do whatever we can to avoid that emotional state that is bringing us what we don't want. And that is directly relational to what.
LeSanné (20:19.862)
emotional frequencies you're holding most frequently. Yeah. Including your money, including your you know, your love, your your your membership in community, how you feel welcomed or not, or understood or seen or not. These are all a aspects of the dream stealers that limit our fulfillment, our deep
truth of who we really are. It masks that. Those dream those are the dream stealers that mask our true love, joy, and peace frequencies.
Tansy Rodgers (20:58.306)
Which is why when we talk about traditional manifestation work, it so often doesn't work, right? Because we need to shift our own personal frequency to attract, like you talked about the law resonance, right? To attract in those same frequencies so that we can manifest the world around us. So or I shouldn't say that we can we are always manifesting the world around us, but like we can we can manifest the world that we want.
To create around us.
LeSanné (21:29.228)
Yes. The dream blueprint is here and causing the friction that you're feeling so that you get back to filling in your b your soul blueprint. We all have a soul blueprint. We all have a destiny that we have come to experience. I call it the curriculum. Each each soul has its own combination or cocktail of of ideas, false ideas.
Notions to shed, literally shed. We must let the falling away happen, and it can feel like you're falling apart, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just know that there is a bottom to that. And usually you won't fall apart until you decided I've had enough of this. My brain has got me as far as I can go. My intellect is being used in the service of the neuroses, as Freud would say.
These programs, giving them, literally feeding them, fueling them by ignoring them and simply bringing up another situation for that friction to come into my life and for me to face it and not run away from it with the scroll, with the screen, with the whatever externals you we all tend to want to run away from uncomfortable feelings. And so we get to.
Take the deep dive into the roots, into the roots of it. And what I have discovered with the quantum soul sync method is
It's much easier than we have purported it to be. I spent seven years in intensive therapy with a psychotherapist with a psychologist, and I can say that there were seeds planted, but I cannot say that any of the roots were actually cleared. And a after that is when I actually dove right into
LeSanné (23:36.012)
Depression Despair.
Just lost. I was in the weeds for a long time. All the seeds were planted. And then when I finally understood.
The nature of those programs of I am not something, whatever I am not, that's not true, that's painful, and it's pushed into our shadow and it lives there and it runs, it creates your decision. This is neuroscience proven, documented, six to ten seconds faster than your conscious brain. You've already made the decision.
To go away from something that may have been exactly what you needed for your soul's evolution into higher consciousness. To escape the matrix, so to speak. That's what up, that's what we're talking about, escaping the matrix of the cultural conditioning of who you can be, who you can't be, who you should be, who you shouldn't be. And and just stopping all of that and finding out who you really are. And you don't have to do a lot to do that.
And that's why I am so excited to be offering Quantum SoulSync method to anyone who's been on the journey long enough to know that they haven't cracked the code yet to leap into the other end of the spectrum of the, you know, the enthusiasm, the the passion, the joy, the just the excitement of what's next, you know.
LeSanné (25:23.69)
Eager on, you know, what's next? Let's go, let's do it. And so every time we get a friction point, that's our that's our portal. That's our portal. And so most often we'll run, we'll hide, we'll do something else, distract in any way, to not feel that feeling. But that feeling is what is your is the gift of of yourself giving to you.
Saying, Hey, I'm still running here. Let's do something rather than, you know, keeping me in back in the shadows running the show that's not getting you what you want, essentially.
Tansy Rodgers (26:06.176)
Your friction point is your portal. that is so hard to accept sometimes.
LeSanné (26:14.318)
I just got chills. My God.
Tansy Rodgers (26:17.214)
Yes. It's so hard to accept because what do most of us do? And again, I think that a lot of this is nervous system dysregulation. It is the fear of not being safe. It is trauma. It is, you know, trained responses. It's so many things. But like, what do so many of us do when that friction point comes? We don't open our arms and embrace it. We stand there and say, no, no, no. Yeah. And we push. Yeah.
Some of us run, we go the opposite direction, and it can be absolutely triggering. I'm curious, why do you think I want to talk about the blue, the soul blueprint here in just one moment, but before we kind of dive into that, because I feel like this is a really good question to that can lead us there. Why do you think that we keep blocking ourselves and not embracing?
this friction point as a portal? Why do you think that we just keep going in and rehashing, even if we know or become aware of what we're doing?
LeSanné (27:23.404)
Yeah, no, the intellect is often used in service of maintaining the programs. As as Freud would say, the intellect is used in the service of the neuroses, because the program is a type of neuroses that keeps looping and looping and coming up and coming up. And what what we have to be able to do is name it, recognize it, name it, and say,
Get thee behind me. If you want to know what divine order is, that's divine order. Those programs aren't running. You are front and center with your conscious awareness, not your unconscious awareness of danger, of fear, of defense, of competition, of you know, whatever the fear is in the moment.
You just have to understand it as fear and then get to the root of it, name it, identify it, and it's just deny its power. It can't feed on you when you name it. When you see it and name it and put it in out of your consciousness. And I know that sounds simple, but the more you keep doing it, the more you will g you will have the knowing that it works. It's like I
It's not that hard.
But we get to identify with them over time. That's just who I am. That's just who I am. That's how I feel. That's what happens. That you know, but none of that is true either. Those are the programs running that are are stealing your your joy because that's not the truth of who you who you are, who you came to be.
Tansy Rodgers (29:16.13)
Here.
LeSanné (29:17.336)
Filling in this divine blueprint. Your soul knew everything before you got here. Knew it all. And that's why after twenty years of being in the weeds, as I call it, I call it my forty years in the desert.
LeSanné (29:35.626)
I don't have any regrets about it at all. And and even though I lost my sister, she saved my life.
LeSanné (29:45.162)
And the mystery will remain in that for me until we meet again. But anyway, I can't let the past influence my future the way it used to, having cleared so many roots of misperception about who I am and why I'm here and and what what's possible.
Tansy Rodgers (30:15.234)
Yeah. Hmm. Well, let's let's expand and dive a little bit into the soul blueprint concept. I love this so much. I agree with you. I, you know, we come in here, we may forget, we may not actually know what our soul wants us to work on. We enter these friction points, we enter these places that feel challenging. And that's why they call Earth to be the most challenging school, right? Earth school is so challenging.
But yet we're here to learn and we're here to navigate. And so with the soul blueprint, how do we start to discover what our blueprint is? I mean, obviously there is an awareness, there is a level of awakening that needs to happen. But once you kind of do that, how do you start to discover what the blueprint is? And how do you expand on that when the blocking or the traumas or the belief system start to pop up and become
these obstacles in your way to finding that joy and that happiness.
LeSanné (31:21.346)
The blueprint is always pressing. You you can't not feel it. You know it's there. You have you have deep soul-centered, heart-centered desires that are pressing, that are pushing you forward. You know, there's an old an a saying from the ancient wisdom of the ages that over every blade of grass there's a
energy over it, breathing into it, saying, Grow, grow, grow. That's your soul blueprint. Calling you forth, pressing into your experience. And that's the pressure that most people are on the spiritual path are really, really feeling right now in this current epoch of our evolution as as humanity. And there's a lot of falling apart that must happen. There's a lot of dissolution.
Of the structures that have been ingrained in our culture, in our individuals, and in our psyches that have to fall away in order to break through to the next level. There's sort of a glass ceiling, there's a plateau that can happen in the on the spiritual path where the intellect has taken you as far as it can take you. All the seeds are planted, but now you must have the experience, the inner experience of gnosis.
Gnosis is knowing through direct experience of your true nature. And so my quantum soul sync method is to bring you in alignment with your soul and your soul blueprint and let that fill in after the soul synchronizing prompts that we have applied to your particular cocktail of limiting beliefs.
LeSanné (33:18.882)
Simple prompts that actually clear them at the root and they don't trigger anymore.
And they may come up and try to run again. And you just apply the steps again to the identifying you face it. The friction is your portal into the next level of your soul blueprint. You face it, you name it, you get it behind you. Say, you're not sucking my energy one more second with that. That is not true.
You stop the looping.
Tansy Rodgers (33:55.724)
Yeah. And I think that so many of us I and I can fall victim to this, but I think that so many of us get caught into this place of if I just knew what my soul was here to do, everything would be fine. But the reality is, the reality is that it is, like you said, these little moments.
To step through the portal and start to elevate up. It is levels. We can't see or gain everything all at once. That's not how it works.
LeSanné (34:27.286)
don't know what we don't know. Yeah. That's exactly that's perfectly fine. You're right where you need to be. You're here, you're listening, you're you're planting seeds right here and now in this moment. Like that makes sense. You will know it in your body when it when you hear the truth. For in the moment where you are right now, what truth will is the water that will hit the seeds that you've already planted.
But you already know recognition. You will recognize, you will recognize, you will remember that that's true viscerally in your body. You will know. And
I like to say the absence of proof is not proof of absence.
LeSanné (35:21.046)
You will just know.
Tansy Rodgers (35:26.262)
Yeah. And so as we're talking about this, you know, I like I think back to my journey and where I'm at on my journey. And it to be spiritual, when I first really just opened my arms and embraced and started moving forward to be spiritual. I thought, it's gonna be so great. And really, many, many of these lessons, I'm like, there are so many dumpster dumpster fires that I'm trying.
Put out at any given moment. But, but what I had also realized too, along this spiritual path and this evolution and this healing and stepping into my soul blueprint was that I and I think so many other people start to believe or start to get into this place of if we seek out the right person, we give them our power, we give away our sovereignty.
Then they can help us to transform because obviously I don't know what I'm doing, right? I don't know what I'm doing. So somebody else can help to guide me. So I want to talk about sovereignty and what that really looks like.
Tansy Rodgers (36:44.876)
I would love to talk about here. How does someone know that they're really giving their power away when in reality their soul is speaking to them and trying to guide them on the path they already have all the answers inside?
LeSanné (37:03.534)
I think that we need each other in this way to reflect.
particular knowing. I think it's transferable. I think that a regulated nervous system transfers to a dysregulated nervous system more regulation. I think that's the vibrational frequency of resonance that that is helpful. So when you're looking for a guide, and this is not giving away your power.
This is seeking wisdom that you want to be aligned with in yourself, embodied as knowing. And so sovereign beings understand that balancing the feminine and masculine in every part of ourselves is what is required in the third dimension.
This is the this is the layer of duality, the light, the dark, the good, the bad, the up, the down, the masculine and feminine, bringing them into this the the still point, into the center point and aligning with your true nature within, you can only find that still point when those programs have subsided, you know, when you have subdued the dream stealers.
Of you're not good enough. This doesn't make sense. This is hogwash. Where's the proof? Blah, blah, blah. That's that's what keeps us separate from from our soul blueprint filling in. And our soul blueprint is our purpose. And that's why it keeps pressing on us. That's why we keep looking for something else. Next, next, next. And I did that for 50 years.
LeSanné (39:04.258)
Who can help me? Who can show me? Who knows? Who's been there? Who's the Sherpa that's been to that mountaintop that can show me the steps to take? That's what a sovereign being is wise enough to discern in themselves in any given moment. And you never are there. It's not one and done. You don't arrive and stay there. This is the dual world. New things will come up for us to manage, for us to, to, to, to traverse.
To navigate. and having that regulated nervous system, which means clearing all of those dream stealers out of your nervous system, those early childhood traumas, those significant emotional events that are still running today as though it's current. Not current. You don't need them anymore. Thanks. Stand down. That's that's that's our job is just paying attention, is being aware of our emotional frequency.
How frequently you're on a frequency is what you will be experiencing in your life on a regular basis. Relationships, money.
LeSanné (40:14.506)
In con w you know, just all of it is r directly mirroring what's going on inside is going on outside, as within so without, as above, so below, on and on.
And so knocking asking and since we're using biblical references, asking is the
To clear the frequencies. You call it forth. You invoke your soul intelligence to clear what's in the way for filling in your soul blueprint. And you prompt in specific ways because you've noticed the feeling, and you say, find that root program and unravel that complex emotional structure that it no longer runs.
That it does not create my reality in this way anymore. It's a declaration.
Tansy Rodgers (41:23.318)
Yeah. And so and so as you talk about this, I mean, I understand the importance of frequency and the importance of this energetic state in where when we're shifting and transforming. But for somebody who's listening that has really lived with depression or this chronic emotional heaviness, what does what what would you have to say?
LeSanné (41:40.93)
Mm-hmm.
Tansy Rodgers (41:44.6)
that it means to really take responsibility for your energetic state without turning it into this self-blame or shame or just diving down these other paths of yeah, blame.
LeSanné (41:59.532)
Yeah, beat yourself.
Tansy Rodgers (42:02.028)
Yeah, beating yourself up. Yeah.
LeSanné (42:03.734)
That's called self-loathing right there. That's a portal. That's a portal. When you find yourself there and going, you were so stupid. Why didn't you do this? And how come you did that? And you're you're so dumb, you'll never get it. There's something wrong with you. Everybody else gets it. You don't get it. You're not entitled. You're d you're not you you you know, whatever that is, that's the friction, that's the portal. Face it right there and say, uh-uh, no, no, no, no, you're not running anymore. But
You can't just say that with words. That's your intellect. You must receive it in your heart, which is the seat of the soul.
And so balancing the masculine and feminine, the feminine is the receiver, the masculine is the doer, the ego is the doer, that's the masculine, that's the intellect, the receiver is the heart.
LeSanné (43:04.59)
So you must go there first to prompt. Drop in. Drop in. You notice all of the religious vo you know, this is this is completing your energy, keeping it totally sovereign, completing the s the circuits, landing in the soul, building the bridge to the pineal gland, firing, that's the crown, firing.
To receive, opening the crown with the pineal gland, receiving into the heart. This is the mechanism. This is part of the technology on the spiritual path. When you're understanding that you are the sovereign being that's deciding what frequency you're going to hold most frequently. And I'm not even pretending to say that it's a one and done. I spent
Decades in the lowest frequencies of despair and grief and suffering until I was circling the drain. And then my sister did the deed. And I was benefited from the shock of that to claim my sovereignty that I would not allow those frequencies to run and found a way to clear the the emotional roots of those dream stealer programs.
Tansy Rodgers (44:34.346)
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If you want to book a session or you want to simply know more, you can head on over to tansyrogers.com or jump down into the show notes and click the link that will take you directly to those services. And if you're not sure which session is the right fit, send me a message. I'll help you choose. I'll help to guide you in the right direction. Alright, let's jump back into this episode.
Tansy Rodgers (46:00.62)
And I I I want to just emphasize something here because I talk about this a lot in the work that I do too. You talked about that heart. Your heart is that center. It is that that that soul, the receiver, that soul expression. And I always talk about how the heart, number one, it is the bridge, right? It is the bridge from from our 3D experience into our higher elevated experience. But also it is the core essence of who we are.
And when you can really just sink into that heart energy, especially even from a frequency standpoint, because love, heart energy is one of the highest frequencies, that just expands and it can shift so much about who you are and how you are perceiving the world around you, how you're perceiving yourself.
LeSanné (46:54.114)
Precisely. Yes, when you
Tansy Rodgers (46:56.302)
Yeah.
LeSanné (46:58.392)
When you understand that it's easy to give without loving
LeSanné (47:05.59)
And it's impossible.
To love without giving.
LeSanné (47:15.746)
When you are in a state where you are not giving, when you are just downtrodden, you have nothing to give. You are nowhere near the love frequency, nowhere near it. Not even near the angry frequency. When you're below the angry frequency, you are really turned in the disorienting.
Most disorienting direction you can you can be. So choosing, noticing where you're what you're feeling. This is philology. This is a whole chapter in my books, SI, Soul Intelligence. The philology is what is most important. Feelings are the business of life. That's why we're here to feel. We have senses. We're multi-sensory beings. They are our guidance.
Our guidance system that tells us, shows us right in our face. Closer than our face. Right here. I don't feel good. Then what do I what am I gonna do about it? I'm gonna choose another frequency. But you it's easy to say, make a choice, but just orienting that direction is all you need to do. Because when you're in despair, when you're
Even anger feels better, even revenge feels better because there's momentum in that. There's energy going out. You're giving something even though you want to give something negatively.
There's energy movement. So noticing where you are, what you're feeling at all times, that's your emotional guidance system. Those are the portals, those friction points of I'm stuck, I'm contracted, I'm I can't move, I don't know how. I, you know. The more you ask, the more your soul will say yes to you and guide you to the people, places, and things that can get you where you want to go.
LeSanné (49:22.72)
And when I decided, you you use the word decision is the opposite of an incision. Incision is cutting into deciding, decision is cutting away everything else, and you decide. This is the backbone essentially that we're building on a spiritual path. This is the structure of a sovereign being.
Tansy Rodgers (49:49.376)
Is that directly connected to soul intelligence? Like is that the un is that the underlying part of soul intelligence?
LeSanné (49:52.629)
Absolutely.
LeSanné (49:57.238)
Yes, it's always pressing for you to see what you're feeling and decide if you're gonna stay there or not and ask for a way with your intellect, but then you have to sink into your heart to receive it, embody it, know it viscerally that because you've asked, it is done. And this is where people get turned off by the saying, ask and you shall receive.
I've asked and asked and asked and asked and asked, okay. Where's my stuff?
So i it has to balance that's the that's the masculine asking. The feminine is the receiving and the heart is the receiver and also the transmitter.
Of the asking into the divine organizing force that will pop up one day with a person on a podcast that says, I have a way to clear those programs really easy and fast. And I've spent and you're you might be hearing that going, I spent 100K on therapy and other modalities, and I'm still running the same, I'm still getting what I've always got.
If you always think what you've always thought, you'll always get what you've always got. But you don't know that you're thinking these thoughts because they're in the unconscious. Those are the dream stealers. And that's why it's so tricky. So tricky.
Tansy Rodgers (51:33.28)
Yeah. Well, let's talk about your quantum soul sink method because this is so tricky. Listen, I have been in this world for so long. And like, you know, it you're doing all the work. You are doing the mindset work. You are doing all of the talk therapy and all of those things have beautiful places in the healing path.
You're doing all of these modalities. There's still this underlying issue. And so I would love to talk about your quantum soul sync method and how you start to help shift people and get out of this patterning.
LeSanné (52:03.458)
You're planting seeds.
LeSanné (52:17.102)
I've pretty much described it throughout the interview today in that
There are certain aspects of a soul's journey
That it has come to deal with in a way. And it has arrived in this evolutionary aspect of their soul's journey.
LeSanné (52:48.078)
To lift the lead blanket of these dream stealers, of the limiting beliefs, the unconscious, making the conscious unconscious conscious. This is what the is the the beauty, the overcoming is is the beauty, is the sublime effect.
Of the cause, overcoming the causes of what keeps us in low frequency emotional states.
And we get to have the experience of the overcoming. And it's not like I say, one and done. It's it's a continual orientation towards noticing how you feel. This is what's most important. To get on a quote, high flying disk, a high flying frequency emotional state. That's we know it's possible. We keep trying, we keep looking, we keep searching, we keep reading, we keep buying different aspects to get us there.
Mm-hmm. And I'll just say
It's always there. It's our job just to clear the way, get out of our own way, essentially, in the clearing of the the dream stealers. And that's the quantum soul sink method. So to just
LeSanné (54:08.234)
There are steps, of course, and obviously philology is most important to any individual's experience on the planet, how they feel. It's all about how you feel and noticing it and not running from it, facing it, identifying it. Get thee behind me, Satan. How's that? That works. That's the order. You are the sovereign being elading here.
Everything else secondarily and hopefully eliminated. And when we start to feel low frequencies, that's when the other frequencies will gather toward it. There's a reticulating act reticular activating system in the brain. Once you start a certain thought process, it gains momentum. Thoughts held in mind produce after their own kind. So you start to think a thought.
I'm not good enough, I can't get this, or you blame it on everything outside of you. They're this, they're that, they shouldn't have. If only the if only is the big is the big killer. That's the basic codependent if only they were different, then I could be okay.
So we we have all these ways of avoiding our philology and taking radical responsibility for our own energetic frequencies that we are in most frequently. You have to understand, as Nikola Tesla said, if you want to understand the secrets of the universe, you must understand energy, frequency, and vibration. And then Albert Einstein said.
You cannot solve a problem from the same energy quote frequency that created the problem.
LeSanné (56:04.788)
It's a frequency. You can't solve a frequency problem from the same frequency that created the problem. You have to change your frequency, which means you have to change your mind. And only you have the power to do that. And you can be assisted by it, assisted with that trajectory. And that's why we're here. And that's how I got here. I didn't do this alone. I didn't remember all this on my own. I've studied rigorously. I've trained. I've I've done as much as I could do until I was
Taught how to drop into my soul and prompt my soul intelligence to do the work. And I named my book SI specifically in this era of AI. SI, this is what will allow the AI to be of service.
Soul intelligence.
Frequency vanquishes all.
Frequency is everything. Yeah. Everything is vibrating, everything is energy. Everything.
LeSanné (57:15.446)
If you look at a pen and you think of all the generations of the people who developed that pen, got that ink into that little teeny cylinder and made that rollerball and and fixed that little thing that clips on your pencil, there are hundred thousand generations of people that brought that pen into being. That pen is energy that was manifest through the physical.
Realm. I mean, if you think about telegraph and now we have Wi-Fi, this is just how el this is how we elevate our existence by the next best iteration of a thing. Transference of energy through the air came through radio waves originally. We learned how to send radio waves with a quartz, crystal, and copper wire.
We learned how to send information through the air. It's all around us, the air. It's in the oxygen. The intelligence that you live and breathe and have your being in. This is your receiver, your soul is in your heart. It's the one interacting with that incredible infinite bandwidth, infinite bandwidth of infinite possibilities.
Infinite potential. And and in science, we have the double split experience of the observer effect that light is both a wave and when it's noticed, it becomes a particle. When you the observer sees something, it affects the the what they see. The observance of the thing affects the thing.
This is the what's so important about what we're seeing in our daily lives is being affected by the observed from the unconscious dream stealer programs. It's going through there first, making our decisions before we can consciously choose. And that's how you get to be a sovereign being you clear the pathway for your consciousness to be present. This is what presence is.
LeSanné (59:40.056)
When you're not operating from an unconscious program, when you're not reacting or making decisions away from feelings that you can imagine you might get a whiff of over there. So I'm gonna go over here. When in fact going right into that would have been the way, even though it may have produced a friction, that's your portal.
LeSanné (01:00:02.142)
So embrace, rejoice. You've s y your friction is is the way. The way out is the way through, as they say. That's a title of a book I read long ago. I don't remember who wrote, but it's absolutely true. The way out is the way.
Tansy Rodgers (01:00:19.446)
Yeah. And I think the other important thing here to also name as we talk about the frequencies, because frequency really, like you've said, is everything. It is the underlying piece that so many people don't actually recognize or give proper attention to. And so one thing that I want to also mention here, because this can come up in in spiritual communities, religious communities, but
The whole concept of spiritual bypassing when it comes to emotions or frequencies that people tend to judge, especially when they take that judgment and turn it around and it now becomes a mirror of judgment for yourself, right? I have found that certain emotions or frequencies can be so helpful and really great information when you can take them and turn them into that healing, right? That portal, right? That friction point.
I'm really curious if you have found if there are certain frequencies or emotions that people tend to judge the most. I can think of one off the top of my head, but I won't say it. I'll let you speak here. Anger. Anger.
LeSanné (01:01:32.648)
Anger. That's a that's a when you say anger, are you referring to being triggered into anger? Your response is anger. Your reaction to something is anger. And that's not obviously not unique to you or or me or anybody. That's an aspect of the the physical realm. All frequencies are are
LeSanné (01:02:00.426)
embedded and strengthened through the activity of the anger. And we feel justified. And we go, Well, it's true. They that da da da da da da. And a sovereign being takes a different approach to this is a portal. Take a pause. Take a pause. Step back. If you have to leave the room, leave the room.
And breathe, obviously, breathing. Get get into your self. And when you're triggered, this is really
LeSanné (01:02:42.7)
As you know, the biggest
Obstacle to your peace, right? When you're triggered, you have adrenaline. You have I mean you're all in fight or flight or freeze or feign or fix or whatever. And the way that you get stop it is breathe. Breathe, breathe, breathe. And I like to teach my clients.
To soothe their vagus nerve by humming. And that requires breath. The vibration of humming, vagus nerve comes down here, goes right through the heart, right between the lungs. The the vibration of humming soothes the nervous system, sues the fight or flight response that you're having. So philology is.
The portal that you notice, I'm I'm I'm out I've lost it. I'm out of control. my range, my frequency has just tanked, and I've lost control and I'm being reactive. This is what awareness, this is what mindfulness practice is about, is noticing your philology. And so you you take a breath, you, you, you take a breath.
And you massage the vagus nerve with the lungs in breathing. And then if you can mmm.
LeSanné (01:04:19.648)
You hum to get present in the moment and not and you're shutting everything else outside of yourself. Because this whole experience is happening in inside. So you you're wise enough to know you don't want to feed that anger, that flair, that reactivity, that trigger. You take a breath. And you get somewhere where you can.
Center yourself. That's the first step of philology and and those triggers of they're doing it to me again or how dare they or whatever the indignation is or the the upset is.
Breathing is is your first defense, is your first reorienting. Get home. I use a I use a fishing reel and I get my hooks out of whatever it is that I'm judging is attacking me or not right in some way, that's triggering my own not rightness in some way that I don't want to feel, that's uncomfortable, and that's why philology is so important, is
Is to walk right into those uncomfortable feelings, face them, get your hooks out of the judgment around them and the other person and whatever is outside of yourself, causing you to feel it, making you feel a certain way. No, no. These are these are your precious, beloved early survival programs that no longer need to be installed in the pr as the primary creator of your reality.
So you breathe and hum as much as you can throughout the day. Just hum. It's a vibration. It's your own unique emission of your unique frequency of alignment, of wholeness, of presence, of the ability to manage your frequency in any given moment. And it starts with.
LeSanné (01:06:29.846)
Awareness and mindfulness and breathing. And I know we've all heard it and heard it and heard it. It's just another way to use it to to clear the emotional state, the clear the triggered emotional state of anger or injustice or any number of cocktails of emotion that is that are unwanted, simply unwanted.
Frequency states. We have to declare, identify, clear, declare, and deny them in a way that's not just intellectual, that's in alignment with your soul intelligence, called invoked. You have to invoke your soul intelligence, especially when those situations, those triggered situations arise.
So simple it confounds the wise. I know.
Tansy Rodgers (01:07:28.418)
Lisene, this was incredible, such an interesting conversation. And I think so much, so much value and concepts and perspectives that people just don't necessarily think about in their day to day. So I'm so glad that we were able to bring this to the listeners and to the public and just allow people to dive into this soul depth healing.
that I think needs to be done. Now, before we get into the logistics of where people can find you, let's just do a few rapid fire questions to sink into where you're at with some of these concepts. How does that sound?
LeSanné (01:08:10.39)
I'm all about the fire, baby.
Tansy Rodgers (01:08:13.034)
All right, all right. So let's go ahead and start with question number one. What is one belief that you personally had to release that changed everything?
LeSanné (01:08:26.572)
That there was something wrong with me.
Tansy Rodgers (01:08:29.324)
Oof, that's a good one.
LeSanné (01:08:33.503)
It was running. It was running the show. That's a dream stealer. Yeah.
Tansy Rodgers (01:08:38.401)
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Question number two. What is one tiny sign that tells you your energy is starting to come back into alignment?
LeSanné (01:08:53.218)
The desire to give to be generous. Generosity is a is a is a real sign. And it's not in order to get approval. It's not performance. It's a genuine desire to uplift.
Tansy Rodgers (01:09:11.682)
Yeah. Yeah. I love that. All right, question number three. If your soul could send you a reminder today, what would it say to you?
LeSanné (01:09:24.844)
You go girl. We got you. We got you. You and me, we are on fire.
Tansy Rodgers (01:09:34.156)
Where can people find you? Where can they get into your world? And especially where can they get their hands onto your book?
LeSanné (01:09:40.915)
Okay, go to sherpashaman.com, sherpashaman.com and schedule a free clearing and buy the book.
Tansy Rodgers (01:09:50.411)
And as always, I'm gonna have those links into the show notes to make it very easy for you to get over to the website, but also to get your hands onto her book. Do you have any last words that you would like to lay on the hearts of the listeners for today?
LeSanné (01:10:08.608)
Your heart is your soul intelligence. It trumps everything. Your frequency vanquishes all. So the reorientation toward the higher frequencies. Choose a better feeling thought wherever you are, from where you are, just the next step, just the next rung of the ladder of emotional frequencies. Choose the best feeling thought you can find from where you are.
Tansy Rodgers (01:10:37.368)
Thank you so much. Thank you so much for being here and helping to share your passion in your heart. I appreciate you.
LeSanné (01:10:45.236)
I appreciate you, Tansy. So blessed to have this opportunity to share and plant the seeds. Hopefully some water hit the seeds too.
Tansy Rodgers (01:10:56.632)
So many of us are trying to create something new while still carrying this old inner script. Sovereignty is not about controlling everything, it is about noticing what has been running the show in the background and allowing yourself to come back into relationship with yourself and choose from a more conscious place. For everyone listening, if this episode brought something to the surface, be gentle with yourself.
You don't have to untangle your entire life today. Just start with one belief or one motion or one pattern. And maybe even ask yourself: is this really mine? And is it still true? And if you know someone who is ready to stop letting old stories steal from the life that they're here to create, send them this episode. And until next time, keep spreading that beautiful energy you are born to share.
