Tansy (00:13.752)
Welcome back to the Energy Fix, a podcast dedicated to help you balance your energetic body by diving deep into the sweet world of all things health and spirituality. My name's Tansy and I'm an intuitive crystal reiki energy healer, energetic nutrition and holistic health practitioner, and a crystal jewelry designer. It's time to talk all things energy. Let's dive in. What if cleaning up your life?
actually started at the cellular level. Today, we're going to be unpacking all about heavy metal detox and everyday toxin load in a grounded, no panic way so that your energy, your focus, your sleep can actually open and breathe again. We're going to be talking about how every single day we are exposed to
toxins and heavy metals and these things that can actually make us incredibly sick and we're going to between my guests and I we're going to talk about how to actually unload what you've picked up and have loaded in. My guest is Eddie Stone, founder and CEO of Touchstone Essentials and a lifelong advocate for clean minimal ingredient wellness.
He became so frustrated by ultra-processed supplements and rising environmental exposures that he decided he was going to partner with scientists to advance zeolite detox solutions. And in 2012, he launched Touchstone Essentials with a commitment to clean sourcing and sustainability. Today, Eddie and I are going to explore the ins and outs of what he's learned along the way and
what he has brought to the world. We'll explore the what, why, the how of heavy metal detox and cellular cleansing. And we're going to be talking about it from not only the scientific side of it, but also going into the practical real life routines that you can actually keep and engage in.
Tansy (02:31.106)
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Now let's get into this conversation with Eddie Stone. Let's dive in.
Tansy (03:06.791)
Welcome to the Energy Fix. Eddie, thank you so much for being here today.
Danzie, it's great to have a chance to be with you and your audience. an honor.
We're going to be talking about a great conversation today, one that we haven't actually really dove into deep at all here on the energy fix. So that's really exciting. And that is going to be about cellular cleansing. It's going to be about heavy metals and detoxification. So we're going to dive all into that. But listen, if you've been a listener here for a while, my friends, you know that here we always want to connect in and really get to know our guest.
on a personal level. So Eddie, can you tell us, is there a word or a phrase that is really important to you in this phase or season of your life right now?
There is, and I'm about to be 62, so maybe that drives that just a little bit, but it's a presence or being present, I guess is the way to phrase it. I'm a big believer that people get caught up in things that are distracting from the moment that they're living in. And instead of those things being a distraction, if you could utilize the past, good or bad, to just inform or educate as you move forward.
Eddie (04:24.194)
just think there's a lot of living to do in this moment and we tend to carry baggage with us that oftentimes isn't necessary. So I encourage my kids and frankly anybody around me is just, let's be present and see things for what they are now.
And that's beautiful because that can translate into many aspects of our life, not just lifestyle and happiness, but also mental, emotional health, physical health. It really spans across the board. So as we're living in a world that is so full of toxins and chaos and things to distract us at every moment, Eddie, what are you doing?
to really stay present. Like what is your go-to to be there?
You know for me because I think it's so easy just as you said the world we live in right just seems like there's so much coming at us. almost don't envy the generations behind me because I think when I came up was a little simpler didn't quite have as much coming at us and so demanding in the moment and so I try to start my day with a lot of quiet time I get up between 530 every day I don't go to my phone.
really try to turn anything on unless it's maybe to listen to an audio, but I stretch or sit or just try to have 60 minutes if I can afford it to just try to think through where I'm at right now as much as possible, think about the day ahead and not so much my to-do list. It's just my approach to it. At this point in life, I think I can impact the world a little more.
Eddie (06:09.282)
by trying to work from my experience and example, spend as much time as possible educating people. That's why opportunities like this are important to me. And so that's really the way I try to start the day as thoughtfully as possible instead of just being reactionary, which I understand oftentimes people have no choice but to live in a reactionary mode, but I don't want to be there anymore and I have to.
Hmm.
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Tansy (08:04.052)
now. All right. Let's dive back in. That is all the updates for now. Let's dive back into this conversation with Eddie Stone. And I think that that can change so much from the beginning to the current time of our lives. know, every year, every decade that we're in, it can look a little bit different, right? And so, so Eddie,
thinking about where you're at now with what you just talked about, and also thinking about the conversation we're gonna have, we're gonna talk about toxins and things that get into our systems. Can you tell us how you got so passionate about essentially detoxifying your life in many ways? How did you get here? What brought you into the work that you're doing?
Yeah, well, it's a story that begins a long time ago. I sort of had an accidental introduction to the supplement industry and it's just sort of one of those things that was kind of the right place at the right time. I had gotten an insurance exam for work and when they base policies or things that work is providing for you and my rating was terrible. I was kind of categorized like I had been a
heavy smoker in my mid 20's and I didn't smoke it's just I had not paid attention or you might just say let myself go after school in terms of fitness or activity working more than thinking which I think can happen to us all and you if you kind of looked at what I was eating fast food or whatever it is just I just wasn't paying attention those things that really matter beyond just the moment right I think too often when people grab food is just for this.
immediate satisfaction sort of thinking about an investment in their health. And I know that's probably a mature level of thinking. So when you're younger, at least for me, that's not where I was. But as that's also happening, my mom, Judy, I'll fast forward a little bit. She's alive and well today. She was going through a very difficult health situation for many months. She had been losing weight, struggled almost every flu, cough, cold, anything coming by her.
Eddie (10:22.83)
And after visiting numerous doctors in our area, there's sort of no solutions that were showing up. They said, oh, well, it's not a virus. I mean, they every test I think they knew how to do. We went to university hospitals. So we're kind of a couple of years into a situation where she's really kind of wasting away in front of us. And so ultimately we referred to a doctor out of state and not a great referral. The person said, you know, I don't know if this guy's a quack or not, but you seem desperate. And so we were.
and we did engage with the doctor. Ultimately, he was focused on toxicity. I didn't really know much about that. And certainly my mom didn't either. But when he got there, he started her on a really heavy dose of Ikeveculation, probably a little too aggressive. If I knew what I knew today, I'd have been a little concerned about the volume of it because it does have some dangerous qualities. But her health within a couple of weeks got a lot better.
And ultimately what they realized was she was having an aggressive autoimmune response to breast implants. She got an earlier in her life and at one of the seams on the implant, it looked like there was some chemical seepage. So we got that out of her and got her cleaned up and her health hasn't been perfect since, but she's healthy enough and enjoys good health today. And it was really a wake up call for me about the role of external factors. I think.
At that time, I mostly thought about what we're eating and lifestyle being this sort of fundamental component, which is true, but to ignore the world we live in and the toxins of the modern age or industrial, whatever you want to call it, is to forget a factor that's really important because oftentimes toxins, you can't really smell them or see them. I mean, it's easy to look at a polluted city and say, that's a problem.
or smell something noxious and go, that's a problem. But a lot of times you don't have those sensory sort of experiences informing you to sort of know better. And that's probably the most troubling part of it is they're kind of unseen and unknown, and yet it's playing a role in people's health.
Tansy (12:38.414)
And I think it's really important to note here too, right Eddie that these toxins that we can't see that we are unaware of they're Everywhere you can't get away from them. They're in our foods. They're in our water. They're in our air They're in the products that we buy they're in Everything and so when you talk about this, it doesn't surprise me
that your mom was dealing with such a toxic level of substances that was causing her to be sick. Because I think many people are and they just don't know it. It's the foundation of what their health concerns are.
Yeah, there's no question about that. And I do think there's now a really clear scientific evidence. Some individuals, you kind of call it a body burden or a toxic burden. Some individuals show immediate sort of acute issues, right? They might have rashes or migraines or disruption in their sleep or any myriad of things that can occur. For other people, it's more of an accumulative effect, almost like we're dealing now with
microplastics. know, most estimations are as a man that's about to turn 62 years of age that I've got anywhere from four to seven grams of microplastics somewhere in my body, likely my prostate, likely my brain. And there's sort of no way to get away from this, right? It's just so airborne and so small. And yet when it goes in your system, your system doesn't do it. So, and that's just
kind of one of the challenges, right? There's probably a hundred, maybe a hundred and five thousand plus identified chemicals that are used in consumer product production, industrial productions, whatever it happens to be. And 99 point whatever percent have never been tested long term on human beings for their impact. And we are optimistic or hopeful that there's no problem, but we don't fully know. And these things linger for a long time. If you take just one example now,
Eddie (14:49.836)
I'm a little older, so I remember this, but DDT was a big concern in the 1970s. A very aggressive herbicide, fungicide, pesticide type of product. They banned it because it was clearly having an impact on pregnant mothers and even those trying to get pregnant. were birth defects, all kinds of challenges. Yet the vast majority of births today, if we checked the cord blood, we'd see the presence of DDT.
and a couple of hundred different chemicals that are really known to either be carcinogenic or other challenges, epigenetic disruptors, whatever it happens to be. And so these things linger just like you said, right? You said air, the wind and the water, also the soil. So it becomes an unintentional part of the food supply. And that's whether you're buying organic or not. know, some of these things we can't just isolate.
application of petroleum-based fertilizers and herbicides and fungicides. I mean, we can have some control over that if you choose to buy organic, but the bottom line is some of these things are just so native in the soil. We don't live in a bubble. A hot house or a greenhouse is not practical for mass food production, or at least as we know it today. So it's just
It's something to be aware of. Don't be paralyzed by it, but it's something to be aware of. And some level of action is warranted whether people want to add that to the things they think about or not.
Yeah. And you know, even if you might be sitting here thinking, oh, I don't live near a factory or, I don't live in a big city, it doesn't mean that you just automatically are fine. Right. Right. And again, I don't say any I don't say that this stuff to scare anybody, but just being very real. You know, I went to the dentist the other day and I got into a conversation with my dentist and we were talking about floss and my teeth, my teeth are so tight. I like I I
Tansy (16:55.094)
I hurt my fingers when I floss my teeth. And so I have to use something like a glide, even though I don't like to use some of those. have to because it just, nothing else works. But I will tell you, they've changed their formula. now it is like, every time that I go in there, like, I can't, how many microplastics am I swallowing? Like what is actually going in to my system when I use this?
I'm still on the lookout for something else, I'll tell you that. But regardless, like you don't necessarily know when it's coming in. So let's talk about this. You talked about all of these different ways. Let's talk about how it builds up in the body. What happens when they come in and how do they actually build up to a level of being a toxicity factor?
Well, first, let's just recognize the human body, there's a lot of sort of genius obviously involved in the human body and its function, right? I mean, it's just really brilliant by design. And so either through your sweat glands or your kidney, your liver, you've got all kinds of systems to help manage toxins. Your digestive system, for example, is designed for...
if a person ate something that was poisonous or something of that nature, there's sort of a closed loop there to sort of keep that from migrating through the soft tissue into the bloodstream of the places. However, it's not infallible. And given the volume of what we're exposed to today, the human body has not fully evolved to the point of dealing with everything that's thrown at. I mean, you've got new sort of chemicals coming out, you know, regularly, right? If not on the daily basis, often.
and many. And so how we deal with it, number one, cannot just be because our kidney or liver and those things are healthy or even our immune system, right? The more healthy you are, the more likely those systems are to support how your body detoxifies, but so can your lifestyle. And I'll just give you a small one. If you look at most adults in the Western parts of the world where physical labor
Eddie (19:11.606)
is generally not a part of their work day. You go to some more developing countries, just because of transportation, other issues, there's still more sort of heavy breathing or more physical work involved just in the day to day going about their business. But that's not true in a Western society. And in fact, for a lot of people, their commute is modest. It doesn't require much walking or exercise. They sit behind a desk all day. Hell, there's even apps you can get to stimulate you to move.
Right? So what that means is generally speaking, sooner than would be expected by age for a lot of people, their lung capacity reduces over time, literally by decade. And then on top of that, if you were to smoke or have other things or vapor or whatever, and that's not my point of being on this show, those things would also exacerbate that challenge. movement, right?
trying to breathe heavy, expand your breathing late into your life as long as possible, basically preserves one of your greater filters you have, which is your lungs. One of the ways to exhale and dispense of things you don't want in your body. I tell people all the time when we're having some discussions, if you think about your lungs, number one, they're remarkable and should be respected at all points.
If you live in a home with central heating and air, then you're accustomed to a filter that sits on the front side of your HVA system, meaning it pulls in air from the home you live in so that air is filtered before it goes into the air conditioning system or the heating system. Most people don't kind of think about that. And if you don't change it, let's say for 90 days or six months or whatever, it's pretty filthy, right? You hardly want to touch it. What you're probably not connecting the dots on are
you're breathing that very same air quality because that's taking air from the room you live in. And unfortunately, you can't change out your lungs, right? You don't just get to take them out, rinse them off and put them back in. so indoor air, now we all know there's pollution outside as well, but indoor air tends to be the worst. Houses today don't breathe as much as they once did. Most home building
Eddie (21:38.382)
products are treated with nonstick materials like carpet or treatment for flame retardant type situations, which listen, I don't want the house to burn either. However, it means that we're getting exposure to volatile organics and other properties that's just sort of unexpected. If you're not out breathing heavy, if you don't ever get a chance to access clean air, fresh air, then it's just, it's more difficult for your body to manage. If you never sweat,
You don't really engage what your sweat glands to do to likewise help you get rid of toxins. And so what I try to tell people is don't be a sort of a passive bystander to this. If you're ever notion where you're trying to live life at its highest level or if you're in a situation, you're trying to level up, right? You're trying to elevate your own interest here. You're trying to maybe longevity is not your goal, but getting the most out of the life that you live.
then activity, breathing heavy, paying attention to the body's physical systems that can support more water than anything else, right? I'm not gonna try to tell you to have 25 glasses a day or some of this kind of stuff, but if you think about your day, just try to have more water than you have soda, more water than you have tea, more water than you have coffee. They all support these brilliant systems. And when you eat, people don't wanna hear much about this, but eating green,
green leafy vegetables, cruciferous vegetables, a little less ultra processed food supports the system. So to your question, how do we help to manage this stuff or deal with it? It's in part the role we try to play in doing the best we can on a day-to-day basis instead of just accepting I live in this modern box, so to speak, which just makes it worse. Plus I don't like things like that because I'm a big believer.
that once you identify a series of excuses and just by end that that's it, then you lose hope and I can't imagine life without hope. And so there's some of it's like a philosophy of how you approach things.
Tansy (23:46.474)
Mm. Yeah. And Eddie, you know, as you were talking, one thing I was just thinking is how this really is just that extra, that extra little asterisk on to breathwork and why breathwork is so powerful. Not only does it calm the nervous system and train the vagus nerve, but it also helps to detoxify the body.
Yeah, that's just an excellent identification. I believe in that fully, in a way to sort of elevate even this general discussion about more movement, right? Breath work, preserve that lung capacity, long into age. I you've got individuals that have focused on that the majority of their life. They get into their 70s and 80s, they've got lung capacities of a 30-year-old, right? That's just brilliant, and that's just paying attention.
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I also find it really interesting too, that when I am working with clients of mine and they say, well, how do I detoxify the body? What do I do? How do I detoxify the liver? How do I take care of these toxins that I know that I'm picking up? The reality is, yes, we need to open up the pathways. Yes, we need to make sure that that's flowing. But sometimes it's the foundational basic things that get overlooked.
Like moving your body and breathing, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's right. And people don't realize even even just a simple glass of clean water in terms of both your kidney and your liver. It's it's just helping. It's just it's just helping because you're taking the pressure off of how those things process out other chemicals found. If you have a diet coke, not not trying to pick on that or something of that nature. Just think about how your body's got to separate the color, the ingredients, the artificial flavoring, whatever you want to describe it as.
Eddie (25:37.85)
out of that to give yourself some water to utilize by the operation of your body. I don't listen to the Joe Rogan podcast very often, but I did catch a clip not too many months ago where somebody was kind of giving him a hard time. He was describing how he tries to get some kale salad or some kind of deep green vegetable each day. the guy said, what are you trying to do that for? says, well, just trying to give my body a fighting chance.
breathing exercises, breath work, water, some deep green leafy vegetables. It's just given us a fighting chance in a modern world.
I love that, just giving it a fighting chance. Yeah. Well, and so that's also part of the whole concept of cellular cleansing too, really. So let's talk about what cellular cleansing is because I feel like that is just that next step when we're talking about toxins. What is cellular cleansing and why is it so important?
Yeah, I'll give you kind of a description, then I'll give you kind of the way we approach it as an organization. So one thing is to recognize, when we talk about heavy metals, volatile organics, a lot of environmental pollutants, let's take a cadmium, lead, mercury, arsenic. You're talking about particulates that are so small and so light, they can float, right? And if you ever have seen
sort of the end of the day, sunlight sort of cascading through a window and you can kind of see particles, right? Well, that's just all the time. It's not just then. And that's not just dust, right? Dust in and of itself, if it's dirt based is probably a little innocuous. But when we talk about it from a particle standpoint with things like cadmium or lead or mercury, you know, we're now talking about something far more difficult for the body to manage because basically you're not.
Eddie (27:38.22)
your body as it's evolved today just is not designed to break those things down in any of our systems. It's best that they just pass through as much as possible. And some people's lymphatic systems, lungs, other things work well enough. That's the case, but not for most people. And when you talk about it that small, we think of in our society, nano as being small. Well, now think of angstrom.
When we say angstrom, we're really talking about a thousand times smaller than nano looking at sort of the math scale. And so these are so small, they can stay and sort of park and set up camp inside your cells. You know, your a hundred trillion cells in your body. And the way the cells operate, there's something called an aquaprina that's essentially a fluids channel or a chemical channel for things to travel in and out of a cell. The body...
is so smart, it tends to sequester things, it doesn't really know how to manage. For example, when we talk about obesogens, obesogens is just really a class of chemicals with properties that make it difficult to lose weight or maybe even lead to weight gain. It can be because they are hormonally disruptive. So they disrupt the hormones, they might have a disruptive impact on your thyroid,
whatever that happens to look like. But they also then just can sequester inside of a fat cell and the body's resistant to break that down because it doesn't know what to do with that chemical. So there's a survival instinct even at a very basic carnal level in the body. The same thing happens at the cell. And so you've got to try to approach that in other ways. I bet everybody, most everybody,
listening, probably heard of chelation before. Chelation says, generally that term in the United States, at least, is about a series of chemicals that have been shown to chelate the body. think most of that attention started when radiation was a big concern and exposures and chelation properties that would help to get rid of radiation from the body. But it can extend further. And you're just talking about some type of agent that would
Eddie (29:57.902)
or bind or whatever you want to describe it. And there are other natural ingredients in our society that have that. Some of your listeners probably have heard of midnight clay. There actually have been clay eating societies over the course of history. Clay can be effective. It's not very discerning and can be difficult from a user ability standpoint. We work with a zeolite. It's a naturally mined property here in the United States. It's natural mineral.
with a crystalline structure, actually evolves when Playa Lake or saltwater meets with lava or lava ash and these things naturally evolve. And we know a lot about zeolites. They've been around for a long time. There's different categories and different classes. Sheet-like zeolites, clenoptilite to be specific, holds the naturally mined version, not synthetics, hold grass status in the FDA because they've been utilized in the food supply and other means for a long time.
hundreds of PubMed studies, pets, people, lots of these applications. But the bottom line is what we know is that they have a quality where they have a native negative charge. And so just think of a magnet end maybe. And most of these heavy metals we're talking about have a positive charge. And so when they come in proximity, they'll literally snap together. And once they've done that, they stay bound. And since your body...
a zeolite's not an essential mineral, your body won't hold on to it. There's no stores of zeolites in your body. They don't have a nutritional quality. And so just assuming sort of normal body function, they're processing out about a four to six hour period of time. What's advantageous about that is it's a way to gently support the body's own systems. And when a zeolite's of a nano size quality, now it can make its way into the cell.
It becomes a very useful tool to support how the body manages things like cadmium lead and mercury that are small enough to sit inside those cells. any time people want to think, well, are we talking zero sum? I can eliminate this. I wished I could say that. But really, because exposure is ongoing, it's difficult to get to zero. But what you can do is manage what's there, right?
Eddie (32:22.988)
lower the temperature level, so to speak, of how this is in your body in the same way that some of these other things you and I talked about, breathing, breath work, what you eat, lifestyle, likewise just helped to manage this because I don't think we have something in front of us where can say, okay, I'm gonna eliminate that because you're not gonna live in the bubble. There was a funny...
after school movie years ago called the boy in the bubble, I think it was the 70s with John Travolta, you might remember it, right? And he didn't want to live in the bubble either, right? The bubble is not practical, right? But he had a compromised immune system or whatever it is. And we hear about these things on occasion. We don't have that ability. And the good news is the majority of us have bodies that are strong enough to sort of muscle up on these things, but our ability to help them impacts longevity, lifestyle, that...
that lower temperature of toxins and metals in your body, right? Your immune system is likely to function better. That's not just impacting your immune system, but your mood. The majority of your serotonin is being produced in your gut, really in the same systems that are helping to keep a healthy immune system, your central nervous system. So all of these things are aided, your hormonal functions, your thyroid function, all these things are aided with a more healthy system with less of these
toxic burdens to deal with.
Mmm, and I would love to go into that deeper in just a moment, but I have to ask first You know these clays these binders these things that are helping to draw to met to Magnetically clip together and pull these toxins out but then to also give revitalization to the cells are there other things that we can do that can help to have our cells heal and thrive specifically like other
Tansy (34:16.957)
I don't know if it's necessarily food sources, but other things or supplements that we can use that can help to bring about cellular cleansing.
From a natural standpoint, this becomes somewhat limiting, or at least what I know of. I've been around sort of the detox space now for several decades. And for the most part, I mean, you could talk about various types of enemas, right? But that isn't really what we're talking about here. That's more to do with digestive and bowel cleanse and other dynamics, which can be important.
based on certain issues, but that's not really going to the crux of this. The clays have been around a long time. They can have some effect, but in terms of a naturally derived product, zeolites really, I don't know of anything that meets that measure. Now, there are drug therapies and there's a lot of different drug therapies. That's not my specialty, but when someone has sort of these acute issues, industrial exposures,
Think of, can't remember the depth of it. was at Silkwood was the movie where there was a Debbie something the actress anyway, years ago about a nuclear meltdown and they were scrubbing these people down. It was called a Silkwood shower. And they also were giving them all kinds of various medications, iodine included to support how their body got rid of, at least in that case, they were talking about radioactive toxins.
There's always chemicals out there, but they tend to come with a long list of warnings for those exposures. And you've got to really take measure of is the cure worse than what I have type of dynamic. think cancer patients sometimes have to wrestle with these dynamics. And so it's a real dilemma. So I know more about the natural space. so things like zeolites, which is my
Eddie (36:23.426)
go to, but then what you eat from food, those have indirect impacts at a cellular level. There's no question about that. The quality of our nutrition will affect us at a cellular level. If you think about things impact the telomere and the protection of how the DNA turns over and our genetic protections and things like that, food, lifestyle, diet, there are things that we can look to in that category, but not as many options as we'd want.
Mm-hmm, and that makes sense. So zeolites are kind of that direct connection They directly go right in there and all these other healthy pieces healthy foods that we're incorporating into our diet They are supporting the other factors that will bring about the healing Yeah
Yeah, yeah. Listen, here's how I think about it. You're just trying to win this battle. I mean, I hate to kind of break it down into that class of term, but it's kind of you against the world. And so you sort of bring all these factors to help you succeed, right? Getting yourself together mentally, paying attention to your lifestyle as much as you can, sleep, stress management, right? What you're eating and then tools. I'll tell your audience up front, I've been in supplement business for decades now.
They are not some perfect answer, but what they are for many individuals is a chance to bridge the gap between where they're at and where they want to be that cannot be accomplished fully with how they eat, the time they have to eat, the choices they have available to them. And so I look at these things as building a list of tools to help me advance my goals relative to vitality, getting as much out of this life as possible, because that also then impacts me mentally, right? If I have an unhealthy gut,
I am most likely an unhappy person because I'm not producing enough serotonin. So there's all these inner woven pieces, right? This sort of fabric of life that come into play.
Tansy (38:18.382)
Mm, yeah, yeah.
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So if you're ready to book that session, jump down into the show notes and click the link and we'll get you booked for your session. I can't wait to see you on the table. Well, let's zoom a little bit heavier into heavy metals. And I really didn't try that pun. I really didn't. I actually almost I almost tried to stop myself there. But yeah, let's zoom in a little bit more on some heavy metals.
Tansy (40:12.342)
You already mentioned mercury, lead, arsenic. These are things that are pretty well found and well looked at. But how do they actually start to mess with our hormones and our energy and our metabolism and our moods? How is that directly impacting us? What would people see in a real life scenario?
Yeah, and I'll give them if they want to develop a mental picture. When they were in high school in a science lab and somebody made a model of how things connect, right? Little long lines with little circles and balls on one side to the other, right? Just think of all these connection points that are important as the chemistry of your body operates. Heavy metals, and this is true of all to organics and others as well.
they're disruptive to that function. And so when you think of H2O, if you can kind of get that model in your mind, well, if part of those connection points are disrupted, right, you don't have a complete molecule, you don't have water. Well, this is true throughout all the chemistry of the body. So anything that can be disruptive. And so when you have exposure to heavy metals, particularly if your body doesn't manage it very well, then the function of the hormones, what they were supposed to do,
the hormone will be incomplete. Sort of another way to think about this is if you look at how your body produces insulin. This is actually a pretty good way to think about it. Most listening will recognize that type two diabetes, type one as well, but type two diabetes or being pre-diabetic is a pretty epidemic issue in our nation. And there's two sort of causes for this, or I say two endpoints. One is that
You're either not producing enough insulin because your pancreas is sort of worn out, but because your pancreas is worn out, what you're producing is of low quality. And that's generally because it's been overused. If you look at our society, so much sugar and so much ultra processed food, a lot of people will wind up with a pancreas that's about three times the size, as much as 27, maybe 29 grams in size. That's not what it should be by the time they're in there.
Eddie (42:32.514)
late 30s, 40s, and 50s, and you're real in, you're in real jeopardy there. It's like an enlarged heart. It doesn't operate at full capacity. And in fact, being enlarged makes it worse. Well, the same things happens harmonically when heavy metals are involved. What the body's trying to do is disrupt it, the replications, how these chemicals connect in the system. So adiponectin or other things that are being produced. Adiponectin is important for maintaining good health and weight.
regulatory property in the heat, cold regulations in the body, how you burn fat, you access yellow fat, brown fat, right? All those things are broken down. But if it adiponectin can't be a complete hormone, if it's disrupted by heavy metals, then it's unable to function and support the body's system. Without pulling out the microscope and putting on the lab coat and going into a chemistry lecture,
You just got to think about how disruptive something can be at completion of the molecule and the task it's trying to do. And that if it's disrupting the function of the thyroid, right? It seems like thyroid issues now are epidemic, right? Clearly the modern life is having an impact that at least when we look at it from a large cultural study standpoint, you could say, well, it's lifestyle. Well, it's lack of sleep. Well, it's diet. Okay.
All those things are just components of the modern life. And so the end point is we have a problem with our thyroid. It's just like we generally have a problem with being insulin resistant, which is what leads to all of these issues associated with diabetics. And so anything that's disrupted to a native system, which these are, that's where the problem lies.
Mm-hmm. And so this is what I love about your work because you don't just talk about how toxins are bad. You actually take it to this whole new level about detoxing into cellular vitality and cellular health. And that is a completely different level than just detoxifying the body. Can you walk us through what you've seen change most often when people finally get this healing of this layer of their health?
Tansy (44:50.87)
actually healed correctly. What do you start to see?
Yeah, and if I can just on what you just said, I'll tell you why I do that. I think people are more motivated and more likely to do something if they have a good grasp of it. Right, if I can kind of see it in my mind, I'm more likely to engage. If it's nebulous, at least for me, if I don't have some level of curiosity satisfied, I'm probably not gonna do it. And I do feel if most people could just a little grasp of.
what these things mean that they're more likely to take action. Here's the first things that we tend to see. And this is really, we take a lifestyle approach, right? So when you're around us, we try to say, hey, do the best you can diet, exercise, sleep, all these things. And they will all yield some of the impact I'm describing. But when people begin to detox, oftentimes they begin to rest better. People don't realize just how
disrupted to their sleep hormones, a really toxic life can be. And that's fiscally toxic or mentally toxic. No one in a bad relationship or struggles like that is gonna doubt anything I'm saying there because they know the first thing that goes is your sleep, right? And once you begin to chronically lose sleep, your IQ generally goes down.
People don't want to hear that because they're powering up with coffee or energy drinks or whatever, but you can't overcome the rest necessary for your brain to function properly. literally, you know, our IQs can go down. So we see people rest better. And what they say to us is they tend to not say I rested better. They tend to say I've got more energy. When we survey them and we say, did you rest better? They say, yes, right. Which is where that energy comes from, because it's not a
Eddie (46:48.906)
nerve stimulant, there's no stimulant qualities, no caffeine or anything like that. They've got more energy because their body is functioning cleanly. It's almost like if you haven't tuned up your car or changed filters in forever and all of sudden you do the darn thing works better. So does your body. It's really just that pragmatic because your body is an engine, right? Driven by your brain. And so they rest better. Then we have people tell us they can concentrate.
People with more acute issues, we oftentimes hear people describing skin conditions that have improved, digestive situations that have improved. All of these things are sort of symptomatic, what you hear when somebody's really toxic, and the minute you give them some tools to sort of lower that temperature, get rid of that toxic burden, all these functions become better. And here's what I find, they're just more motivated. If I'm sleeping better,
I've got more energy and I'm a little more clear minded. You know what? I'm probably feeling the best I've felt in forever. Because one thing that also happens is all of these subtle erosions that I'm describing when there's a toxic burden, right? You can do almost anything to your body in your teens and your twenties, right? You can stop at the midnight buffet and wake up skinny. And by the time you're in your mid thirties, you can drive past the midnight buffet and wake up bloated.
Right? mean, it's just, it's just, this is how it works. And so as you, you don't really realize these things are eroding energy level because you can't compare how you felt five years ago to how you feel today. And so we don't really realize what we're giving up just like people gain weight by decades. Well, it's only a pound and a half to two pounds a year, but it's 20 pounds at the end of 10 years.
And then it's 20 more pounds at the end of another 10 years. And all of that will impact your knees, arthritis, and all these things. so people tend to not recognize what's going on because it's not, you know, one jump from great one day, not the next. So when they begin to detox, it is a quick response. And so while their body still has lots of work to do within seven to 10 days, they often feel better because there's just this
Eddie (49:13.944)
Big relief, right? Just like you gave your car a tune up. And so it tends to happen quickly in this regard. And so from a digestive, sleep quality, concentration standpoint, clear minded, I don't think the word brain fog is a medical term, but we get a lot of people say it kind of relieves some of my brain fog. And so if you're living, right, you probably know what brain fog is. We've all woken up with it. And so all of these are sort of results. We see people talk to us about,
really on regular basis.
Mm-hmm. And for all the listeners, I want to put a little pin right here. I want you to really pay attention to this piece and maybe even go back and listen to that part again because Eddie, see, we have a lot of ADHD neurodivergent brains here that listen to the energy fix. And so I want to put this pin here because everything that you just said is so important for that kind of brain functioning.
When we have a lot of a toxic buildup, when we don't have that cellular health, our brains, our symptoms are going to be exasperated. And so I just really want to emphasize that because detoxification and making sure that your cells are being supported is such a foundational piece to that part of the healing process for any kind of neurodivergence.
or especially ADHD and ADHD and so forth and so forth. I just wanted to emphasize that. So I'm glad that you went into such detail because I think that's a really important piece to hear. Yeah. And so you said a word, you said this multiple times and we've talked about this, but I wanna just kinda add on to this. You talk about detoxing and it's all over the place.
Eddie (50:57.954)
Happy to.
Tansy (51:11.316)
What is your thoughts on some of the popular methods like cleanses and juice teas, these extreme protocols? What is your thought on that versus the cellular healing side?
Well, me, I really hate to be negative about this and this is not going to sound great. And I'm not saying those things don't have a purpose. You know, if you're drinking a juice with a bunch of vegetables in it, as long as the sugar is not overloaded or, you know, those are processed ingredients, I think great because most people don't get enough fruits and vegetables. And if somebody wants to do some intermittent fasting,
I think there's also lot of data out there to support these things. What I'm not a fan of is a crash anything, a crash diet, proms coming up. I gotta somehow get into those pants I wore in high school when I'm 40 years old. I got a wedding come up. I can't look bloated for the pictures, right? I sort of understand how these motivations come about, but in the last hundred years,
There's been all these diets oftentimes falling into this fad category and very few of them, if any, when you look at the long-term study of those populations participating, yielded long-term results. And very often people yo-yo and when they yo-yo back up, their weight goes higher. And the problem is they probably lost some important muscle tissue.
or tissues around their organs that were important. And so there's a lot of dynamics there. And I understand we want things now, but I'm really more motivated by things that are new habits that can fit into our lifestyle. I tell people all the time, we sell supplements, we sell quite a few supplements. I say to people all time, if you've never really taken supplements, if you've never really used a greens drink or things like that, don't buy everything.
Eddie (53:22.05)
because they're all gonna sit on your counter and you're gonna be intimidated by it and there's no new habit. Get one or two things that you can fit into your day kind of seamlessly and develop some muscle tissue, muscle memory on using and fitting that in and getting some feedback from your body, feeling better so it can become a habit because the problems we're trying to solve here cannot be solved
permanently in short term. So if you're the type of person that can crash diet for the wedding, but you continue those habits, great. I just don't think that defines most people. anything that falls into a faddish category, I'm not a fan of. That's not to say there's not some people that aren't served that way. Okay, I'm not trying to get in the way of that, but looking at just sort of the overall impact, things that you can ease into traffic instead of disrupting it.
That's a big thing I believe in trying to ease into the traffic instead of disrupting life, stop stopping new. You'll even find more social support. When someone crashed diets and they look better or they look different, right? Their friends may at first praise them, but then they're also going to develop some jealousy and they can subtly sabotage without it being obvious. But if you ease into these things and develop the muscle memory to keep with it, right? This is where these long-term
at least in my experience, benefits come from, people can stick with them. So I tend not to be. When I hear the word cleanse, it's mostly going to be body weight, mean, excuse me, water weight that they lose. It is not going to be permanent. It just might get you back into some pair of pants or dress tomorrow night. That's going to be about it. And maybe temporarily you lost some toxins. But none of that stuff has proven to be long-term. If you've got a medically related issue,
and your doctor's talking to you about bowel cleanses and other things. Fantastic, not trying to get away of that, but things that are in fashion tend to not stick around and go out of fashion. And that's because there's no lingering impacts. And so I look for things that have more long-term support and can really support long-term objectives.
Tansy (55:41.07)
And so you've talked a few times now about selling supplements. Your company, Touchstone Essentials, Touchstone Essentials, let's talk about these products. I mean, you just said, hey, don't do it all, right? Don't do it all. Just pick one or two. Eddie, what is your one or two that you think are really foundational, important pieces from Touchstone Essentials that you recommend out to people?
Yeah, and this be somewhat impacted by age and maybe lifestyle. So I'll give a little bit of a caveat because sometimes people have more urgent matters they're trying to deal with than others. so, and I'll, for those that are curious about what we do, it's a curated product line. Started the company in 2012. Our focus is on USD organic certified products, clean.
as clean as they can humanly be made. So that we get people, it is not the same thing as an organic garden that you go to every day for your meal, but it's pretty dang close in terms of what you get in terms of processing and cleanliness. And so we're trying to get people access to that sort of whole food dynamic. I sell supplements, it's how I make my living, I've been doing it forever. I'm just not a fan of about 99.9 % of what's out there because if people really knew how it was made,
It's a lot like fast food and assembly. it's just, so I'll leave it there. And so for me, there's sort of three things I say generally that are essential. One is detox and depending upon what a person can afford to do, we've got a variety of products in that category, but the main one is our PureBody Extra Strengths, a nano-sized product that cleans the body at a serial level. It's odorless and tasteless. It's two or three sprays.
to three times a day, maybe four times a day. It's very easy to use, which is an important part of our ethos. And we've got millions of users on a global scale, and it's just a tool to kind of fight all this stuff we've been talking about. The next thing for me would be our green string. And if it's not ours that you're gonna use, find a good one. Find one that's been cold processed, not pasteurized. Look for USD organic.
Eddie (58:07.214)
clean products because when you concentrate powders, you concentrate whatever is in them from the soil. And so you just need to make sure you're paying attention to the same thing like with baby food, right? You concentrate a problem. And so a clean green shrink broccoli recipe. And then finally for me, we have a product called Televital and that's a series of organic natural ingredients that
aid the body in the stimulation and production of an enzyme called telomerase. And most of your audience, I don't expect them to know what that is. But telomerase is something your body produces in its sort of native cells, these base cells that are present in the womb when children are developing, that helps to protect the telomere, the end cap on your DNA to just assure safe DNA replication.
over and over as your cells turn over because telomeres get short natively. And so without doing something about this, in fact, the biggest governor of your age is the length of your telomere because once that telomere's length drops below 5,000 units, senescence sets in, which is kind of a programmed cell death for the death of that cell and the ones around it. So you can't go forward. is lifestyle can kill you, but what keeps you from living your maximum life
is the length of your telomere. And the only thing, the only thing I promise, if you do the research that can impact that telomere is telomerase. And so whatever you are looking to use, it needs to stimulate telomerase production. And we work with, I believe, the most important scientists in this field. you know, I think people should use this when they're young, although people tend to only think about this stuff as they get a little bit older, but I think it's really critical. And so those three
are really this sort of linchpin strategy for me.
Tansy (01:00:04.59)
And do you feel or have you seen that this cellular cleansing helps to lengthen those telomeres for people?
The cellular cleansing won't, that's just detoxifying. And what that will do is prevent as much damage from heavy metals and environmental pollutants. But the televital product, which stimulates telomerase, that's what impacts that health of the telomere. So I probably confuse that with my descriptions. And so one is to help prevent some of the damage. So that's what you really have when you think about detox, good nutrition.
how your body functions, that televital promotes that production of telomerase. And that's really critical as we look at DNA, DNA health, epigenetic health, myocondria health, all these sort of chemistry factors that literally sort of the root function of the body.
Hmm. Yeah. Interesting. So, okay. So let's look ahead. What do you see as the future of cellular detox healing? Do you think that we're moving into more of a personalized detox? do you see with how things are shifting for us and how maybe it might get better or maybe worse? I don't know. I'm just curious your thoughts.
Can both of those things be true? Yeah, because I think both are possible. And I think on the one hand, at least what you see, not to talk about politics, but if you sort of see the politics in today's world, there tends to be less of a focus on dealing with environmental pollutants. And so I don't think it's a good idea, but
Tansy (01:01:30.584)
Sure, I think so.
Eddie (01:01:58.304)
everybody else can think about it. I think about it, I look at crop production and the amount of land that we're using to produce organic fruits and vegetables. Because that impact isn't just on the fruit or the vegetable and how that's grown and say the quality or the nutritional density of that fruit or vegetable, but also impacts those communities where the fruits and vegetables are grown. The farmers, their children, that community, the workers.
water supply, the air supply, it's just hard to convince me that billions and billions of metric tons of petroproduced fertilizers, fungicides, pesticides are great. They have a function. No question. I'm not ignorant to these kinds of things because of crop production and the importance to feed billions of people, but in this case, more is not better. And so the more we can pay attention to soil qualities…
microorganism counts, crop rotations and these things. These are sort of… So in the future, I hope in prey because of awareness, we spend more time thinking about the quality of the soil and the arid land to grow things in so that the fruits and vegetables available to us all of a higher quality. Right? And so these… That's on the one side. On the other side, I do think particularly those individuals with means…
we'll be able to have access to things from a dietary standpoint that are more tailored to them. I do think every day we learn more about how our bodies react to certain fruits and vegetables. The more educated a person can be about that, eat things that are more complimentary to their blood type or whatever it is. The reason that's important is the control of inflammation. People know about inflammation when you think from an injury standpoint, but there's a lot of things about your lifestyle.
that promote inflammation in your body, including toxins. And the more you're able to manage inflammation, the less impact that's gonna have on your physical health. Lower information, risk of cardiovascular disease, even things I talked about like your production of insulin and stuff gets better if there's lower inflammation. Even people on your podcast that are dealing with spectrum-based issues, we know that high inflammation counts can make those things worse symptomatically. And so I...
Eddie (01:04:24.778)
On the one hand, I want us to pay more attention to soil, soil quality, so the general fruits and vegetables grown are better. And so, but I have concern about that. On the other hand, I do believe we'll learn more about how to eat specifically for individuals. Will that be accessible to everybody? I sure hope so, but I do think that technology is out there. I just say I'm more optimistic than not. I don't mean to be Debbie Downer.
No, I love that. And I think when you talk about the soil integrity where we're at right now and the foods that come out of that soil, regardless if it's organic or not, it's about the mineral composition, right? And like where it's actually at quality wise. And I think that's important to mention and to also then say that sometimes supplementation is critical.
because we're not getting everything that we actually need from the foods that we think we're getting it from.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, mm. This is a great conversation. Yeah, I love talking about this topic in particular because even though detoxification, toxins, or buzzwords, I like how you talked about it's not just about detoxing, it's about actually supporting the body and supporting the cells for true vitality and true long-term health.
Tansy (01:05:59.446)
And so before we go into talking about all the fun details of how to get into your world, I wanna do a little bit of some rapid fire questions just to get to know you a little bit deeper, to get to know you on a real human level outside of your supplement company and your power brain about detoxing and toxins. So are you in? You wanna do fuel? All right, okay. right, right. All right, so remember these are
just whatever comes to the top of your brain. You don't have to sit and think long, just whatever comes in right away. All right? All right, all right, here we go. All right, number one, what is one food or ritual that you swear by to keep your energy clear?
Eddie (01:06:48.672)
Intermittent fasting. I don't generally eat. I try not to eat any later than eight or nine, sometimes lifestyle work impacts that, but I really won't eat until about 11 30 or 12 or 12 30 the next day. And I try very hard to have an easily digested meal. So that can be a soaked overnight rolled oats with nuts and berries that would digest easily.
or it could be a yogurt, a non-fat Greek yogurt with no sugars and some fermented fruits. But I really try to make sure that first meal after fasting will digest easily for the very reason you've described, which is to protect my energy.
that. All right, number two. If you could put one detox myth on a billboard and smash it forever, what would it be?
Eddie (01:07:49.23)
Raps.
people that think these wraps are having some long-term impact, they're just getting rid of some water weight, and there's just nothing clinical out there to support anything other than that, and people spend a lot of money on it.
Yeah, I never would have even, I never, I forget about that. I forget about those all the time. I never even think about those.
I hear about them all the time and what people pay and I'm like, my gosh, really?
And then finally, number three, what's the most surprising place that toxins hide that people never even think about?
Eddie (01:08:32.503)
This is gender specific, but for men, the impact on the prostate. Like for example, if you were to pump gas and it spills on your hand, within about 30 minutes, most men, when they go to the restroom, it would be in their urine. And it's mostly the benzene. And it can impact both the sensitivity and other dynamics around the prostate.
And I'm sure there's a correlation with women as well. just don't know that dynamic as well, but people don't realize how sensitive our urinary tracts are. Women can think about that relative to yeast infections and other things. And there's whole nother discussion there and impact on overall health. But yeah.
that's fascinating. Yeah, I mean, I would have never thought about that just from a health perspective, but it makes complete sense. All right. Eddie, where can people find you? Where are you hanging out? And how can people get more of Touchstone Essentials?
Well, and I'm happy to share that and thank you for the format. And for those that have stuck around with us here just a little over an hour, I appreciate that. I realize you got lots of things to do with your life and time. so giving us a few minutes is great. So we're at the goodinside.com, but I'll tell everybody, don't just go to the website. You're gonna post in the show note a link that will get people access if they're first time to us for, we call it evergreen offer, but.
they can get as much as $50 off an initial purchase of one of our packages. And we like to honor people and if you take the time to listen to us, do something for them. And so that'll be in the show notes and hopefully you'll go there. if you just wanna go, cause you're curious though, thegoodanddieteside.com, I think you'll enjoy what you see. There's a lot of great information on our shop pages, but go over there and look at our community notes and learn more about us. We're B Corp certified and
Eddie (01:10:41.702)
We're trying to do best we can to be exemplary citizens and be a part of the good fight. And so we have long term intentions of being a part of making people healthier.
Mm. That is so generous. Thank you so much, Eddie. I really appreciate that. And as always, all of those links will be down in the show notes, so make sure you jump on down there and click on those links so that you can get into Eddie's world, but also save some money on some great products, for sure. Yeah. Eddie, do you have any last words that you would like to lay on the hearts of the listeners for today?
Thank you.
Eddie (01:11:22.56)
Yeah, you know, it's an interesting world we live in and there's just a lot coming at us all the time. Make time for yourself. Gosh, I mean, just be a little selfish with yourself and give yourself a break. Give yourself some grace, right? If you've listened to this and you're kind of beating yourself up a little bit, stop, right? Tomorrow can be a brand new day. And I just, really want people to prioritize themselves a little bit. And that's just easy not to or excuse away.
But you're as an individual, you're important and who you are and what you are just, it's part of who we are as a nation.
Thank you so much. you for being here and sharing your passion. And thank you so much for the impact that you're bringing to this world.
Thank you.
Let's take a moment to connect into this conversation that you just listened to today and also to give you a few reflective questions to help you move through this week a little bit more powerfully. First, where is less the actual medicine? And name one place that you'll cut the noise out this week. Number two.
Tansy (01:12:37.524)
What's your easiest daily hygiene habit for detox? Pick one and make it non-negotiable. And number three, what environmental tweak will make it inevitable today? Maybe opening your windows or filtering a change or maybe super stratum on that damp corner. What is it gonna be that is going to really shift you this week?
You can connect with Eddie Stone and learn more about Touchstone Essentials by clicking any of the links down in the show notes. And remember, if you're looking for some more gifts this season, peek on over at beucrystals.com and add your person to the wish and tell list so you can actually get what you want.
Thank you so much for being here today and thank you so much for just sharing this love and this passion of moving into that healthier version of you, that upgraded version of you. And until next time, keep spreading that beautiful energy you were born to share.
