Tansy (00:13.752)
Welcome back to the Energy Fix, a podcast dedicated to help you balance your energetic body by diving deep into the sweet world of all things health and spirituality. My name's Tansy and I'm an intuitive crystal reiki energy healer, energetic nutrition and holistic health practitioner, and a crystal jewelry designer. It's time to talk all things energy. Let's dive in. What if 60
wasn't a finish line, but actually an ignition switch. An ignition switch to catapult you into this next beautiful phase of your evolution. Today, we're reimagining life after 60 as a season of opportunity, vitality, and purpose. And we've got a guide who is going to walk us through it. She walks it through every single day.
My guest is Allison McCune Davis, author, traditional naturopath, mama five, and a long time natural health entrepreneur. Her new book, 60 is a Good Start, a Powerful Body, a Purposeful Life, and a Plan to Make It Happen, invites women to treat this chapter as fertile ground for strength and meaning.
In this episode, we're talking all about the myths of aging and Alison's self-perpetuating circle of purpose where she's talking body work, brain work, world work. And we're going to be talking all about some simple practices that help you feel younger by design. This is a conversation that is incredibly empowering at any age because we know, we know that at some point,
We're gonna be moving through these phases of our life and to be prepared with tools to help us expand in our mindset, in our body, in our soul. Well, we could all use a little bit of that. Here's Alison McCune Davis. Let's dive in.
Tansy (02:32.911)
Welcome to the Energy Fix Podcast, Allison. Thank you so much for being here today.
It's wonderful to be here, thank you.
You know, in the grand theme of the Energy Fix podcast, we love to get to know our guests. The listeners love to get to know you as a real human being. So let's just dive into that first. Is there a word or a phrase that you're really embodying right now in this season of your life?
Well, I think the phrase I would throw out there, because all my friends would tell you I say it all the time and I don't know if they start rolling their eyes or what, but is environment triggers behavior. It has become just such a big deal for me. I mean, I'm going to say, well, it's been the last, you know, I don't know, maybe five years, but
It continues to be a big deal because the more I think about it, the more I try to like in my home, you know, like that cushion right there is on that floor to trigger me to sit on the floor and you know, I sit in the chair too, but to sit on the floor to have more movement, you know, just to be up and down for mobility. mean, that's why the Japanese sit on the floor. It's, you know, they're one of the blue zones groups, but
Allison (03:56.283)
That's just one little example of lots of things that I try to create my environment to trigger the behavior that I want out of myself.
I love that. so tell me then, does it work in the opposite direction that if your environment is maybe chaotic or it doesn't have the set up, right? Like, can you talk about how that can trigger maybe the opposite behaviors that you want to have happen?
I mean, let's just take the concept of clutter. know, along this wall over here, I have a it's a full floor to ceiling wall to wall bookcase. And it's right by the door where you walk in. And it used to be, you know, just like a regular bookcase full of books. But and I was thinking, you know, I think I need to like start a meditation practice or something.
And then I looked at that bookcase and I realized that every time I walked into this room, that bookcase stressed me out. So finally, one day I thought, no, I don't need to do that. What I need to do is reorder this bookcase according to color. So now this has been about three years ago. It's all the red books, all the blue books, all the yellow books, you know, and I love it. And people love it when they walk in here and it just, it just has a sense of order.
Tansy (05:25.248)
I to say, I started doing that with my closet and my clothing and I organize all of my clothing by color. Really? And I will tell you, it has made such a difference in just being able to bring in more ease to picking what I want, what's gonna go with something else, taking less thought out of it. I was trying to figure out like, how can I not have to bring too much extra thought?
Right? So I love this environment triggers behavior because really is taking that extra energy that it takes through thought out of the equation.
I mean, in every part of your life, you know, like I have a little, well, finally I decided to put my supplements in these little baggies and these little baggies sit in a beautiful crystal bowl on the bookcase right when I walk in, I see it. Well, I went, you know, it took me a long time to figure that one out, but now I see it. I don't forget to take them, you know, it's environments triggering behavior there. Just, you all the little things.
Well, I feel like this, your phrase of your season of life is such a beautiful lead in to this whole conversation in all honesty. mean, Allison, let's really just start right there at the heartbeat of your work. 60 is a good start. It is such a vibe. is such a, it is such a feeling. And I'm really curious because I mean, you wrote a whole book around that.
What moment made you really realize 60 isn't an ending, but an ignition point?
Allison (07:07.726)
Well, I turned 60 and kind of freaked out. and I'm 64 now. So that was, took three years to write the book. just came out this year. Um, but I, I was restless. I was just, I was restless. Um, I'd been teaching women and natural health for the prior 10 years locally and online. And I still loved doing that, but
I needed something else. know, my kids were growing up, most were out of a house. Like life was changing for me. What I was doing for the past 20 to 30 years was now becoming different. And that was part of that restlessness, I think. And I was looking for that thing that was gonna be something I could sink my teeth into for the next five or 10 years. Not just that year or that month, but something bigger that was more long lasting.
didn't know what it was. And so I went on this little seven month Odyssey, which I can give you more detail about if you'd like. But at about the end of that seven months, I was visiting my girlfriend from age six down in Dallas and she had just turned 60 and we were with like three or four of her friends who were about 60. We're all at a bar having a drink. I didn't know her friends. So it was just this group of women.
And we of course get into this conversation about age and turning 60. And she said, well, I hear 60 is the gateway to old age. And I just had this vehement response. I was just like, no, I do not accept that. And I was telling my husband about it the next day. He was down there with me for a work thing. And so we were on a walk. And I just like, just was passionate about it. And it was about two weeks later after my little journey of figuring out what I was going to do that I just
was actually doing a little breathing meditation and just saw, my gosh, I think I'm gonna write a book. Of course, my brain, know, there's always that battle with the brain. like, what? You can't write a book. You it's all been said before. You're not that great a writer anyway. You know, what are you thinking? And so we all have that. I'll have to, here's a tangent real quick because I want people to understand we all have that.
Allison (09:31.414)
So once I did decide to write the book, those next few months, I went to this writer's conference. It was online. was like a Zoom call with probably about 200 people. Over the course of a few days, pretty big deal. And the keynote speaker was Anna Quinlan. And she's like 70-ish probably. She's written tons of books. She's been, I think, I forget if it's the New York Times, but it's a New York magazine or newspaper columnist for like 30 years. She's huge. She's gotten a Pulitzer Prize. I mean, she's a big deal. And...
She's the keynote speaker, so she's on there talking to all these writer types. And she says, every day I sit down to write and every day I have to fight off that voice that tells me you're not a good writer. Nobody wants to hear it. You might as well just go do something else today. And then she actually named him Nigel. So she says, so I have to say, it's you, Nigel, you know, get lost. And then I start to write.
And so everybody in the chat was just like, my gosh, if that's the only thing we heard today, it was worth the price of admission. You know, I just, I love that story because you know, no matter who you are or what you've done or not done in the world, we still all have that. like to call it the battle with our brain. You know, that other little voice in there that's trying to take us off what our mission is.
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Tansy (11:56.342)
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Well, and I'd like that you noted all of that, because I definitely want to dive into your seventh month, your seven month odyssey here in a moment. But I love that you talked about that because when you talked about natural health, you are a traditional naturopath, correct? So you're trained as a traditional naturopath. And I love this whole journey because you've worked in this field. You've worked with aging. You've worked with.
You've worked with men and women that are trying to beat the quote unquote old age battle, right? And now here you are saying, hmm, I'm seeing something different. I need something different. It's time for me to shift. And so I think that you and your journey would be such a beautiful, valuable story to tell so that we can emphasize where
Tansy (14:19.758)
all going through this. Every single one of us. So please share your story.
Yeah. So, so I thought, okay, I'm going to write, I think I'm going to write a book and, well, no, sorry. That was the end of the seven months. The beginning of the seven months was I turned 60 and I thought, I'm looking for, I'm restless. And I thought, I think I'm going to have to say yes to some things that may not be the thing, but they're going to lead me to the thing. You know, that just happens a lot. Like this step led us to that thing, led us to that thing. And my gosh, here's like a big thing. So.
Maybe that's just a lifetime of experience knowing that's kind of how it goes. So you really have to be, I think, open to all the signs out there. Well, so the first thing that I came across was this guy named Jesse Itzler. He is the husband of Sarah Blakely, right? Inventor of Spanx and he's an entrepreneur. And he created this big calendar. It was like for a whole year. And I found him on Facebook somehow. I don't even know how. And the calendar was cool. I liked it. So I
I got it and it came with the Facebook group. So his big deal was he wanted you to create a misogi, which is a Japanese word for a life-changing event. He wants you to have a misogi every year. So you're really making significant memories each year. Oh, in 2021, I did this. In 2022, I did that, right? So you can, you remember these significant memories because, know, life...
tends to go really fast the older we get because we're doing the same things all the time. was so, seemed so long when we were kids, cause everything was new. Well, if we just keep adding new things in now, life seems longer than if we were doing just the same thing over and over and over, which I mean, we're all, we all do, but you know, if we can interject those things. So anyway, want you to create a misogi. And I'm like,
Allison (16:14.91)
Well, what's my misogy going to be? So I'm thinking about this for good three or four months Lurking in the group. I really wasn't talking to anybody. I didn't know anybody They were male female all ages just but the thing about that group was they were all Talking about really living life and they were gonna do this and this is gonna be my misogy and you know just different things like that and and he's that way too, so This finally this girl pops up one day and says
I'm going to do the 75 hard challenge starting tomorrow. Does anyone want to join me? And I'd heard about it four months prior and I'd listened to a podcast about it. Do you know what the 75 heart is? It's this challenge. It's in, and I listened to this podcast. This guy that does, that started it is huge muscular tattoos everywhere. I mean, like I thought I'm not his target market. You know, there's no way I can do that.
I don't know
Allison (17:13.326)
It's very physical. You have to work out twice a day, 45 minutes each time. One has to be outside in the elements. You drink a gallon of water. You have to have a super clean diet. And you read non-fiction books, like 10 pages a day. You can't mess up anything or you start over. It's very, very intense. So I thought, hmm, I wonder if I could do that. And I went back and re-listened to
that podcast again and I thought I think I can arrange my life to do this and I just turned 60. I'm motivated to do something and it could be my masogi and so I did it and I love this story because the only thing that changed in those three to four months that made me think I could do it were reading what these people were saying. It was a mindset shift that that was just what it was and it goes to that
concept that we are the five people we hang around now whether that's actual people or What are we listening to? What do we want? You know, what are we putting into our eyes and ears our senses? Is that good? Is it uplifting? Is it positive or is it not is it the opposite of that? And you know, we don't want that I mean, it's wife's hard enough without you know, putting bad stuff into those into those senses and so
So I did the 75 hard and I also did a little mastermind online again with women all ages. We were just sort of, was like six weeks I think it was, we were just sort of talking about our lives. Were we doing what we should be doing? Just sort of a general mastermind. And then it was after that that I went down, saw my friend in Dallas, couple weeks later decided to write the book. So it was just, know,
Those things led, you know, I had to be intentional about that searching out of what is going to be, what am I going to focus on? What's going to be my next thing?
Tansy (19:20.334)
Mm. I love I love that. I love it. You're right. It's so much about mindset shift. Even when you're hitting that milestone year birthday 50 60 70 100 right. It's really about how you are perceiving and looking at it. Yes. Now
How many think it is the gateway to old age? And I think it's the opposite. I think it's the time where maybe our kids have grown and left the nest or maybe we've, or, you know, ending a 30 year career or both, or it's just a transformative time. And so I, you know, we have more white space in our brain because of those things, because, you know, we're at this point in life to think.
to consider what might we do different. And we have all these decades of wisdom to go along with that, which is pretty great. Lots of people have done their big thing in the last third of their life. I list a lot of them in the book.
Yeah.
Tansy (20:28.59)
You're right. And those stories are always so inspiring. Now, you say, you've said multiple times here that people have said to you that 60, we'll say 60, is the gateway to old age. But you say that you can reimagine life at 60. It can become an opportunity. It can become full of purpose and vitality. I'm really curious, thinking about this gateway to old age.
I'm curious and thinking that maybe the people that we're hanging out with, the culture, the conditioning, the mindset that we are allowing ourselves to be in really is going to rewire or create these stories to allow us to either, number one, look at it as a gateway to old age or number two, look at it as an opportunity. How do we start rewriting the script to this?
I think again, I think it takes some real intention and I'll go back to what is, what are you putting in your ears and in your eyes? What or who are you listening to in all aspects? Who you live with, who you interact with, what you're listening to or watching. And I'm not saying I, you know, I love a good Netflix, you know, binge watch, but I'm also pretty, I've been working on this for a long time. I mean,
decades and so you know if I like there was a time when I was in my forties okay so when I when I hit about 40 well let's say 43 I just had my first three kids so at 37 40 and 42 little older than most and my body just kind of went you know down and my immune system was really low and I found that my first naturopath and
got, you know, I really spent probably that decade getting my body back in good shape. You know, my gut health, I had too much bad bacteria, not enough good. My adrenals were shot pretty typical after having three kids. My thyroid was off, you know, so I was really having to fix these things naturally I chose to do. And, and during that time, I remember I, I in my bedroom, so here's where I would sleep.
Allison (22:52.946)
And right over here to my right was this big wall. And there are these 40 verses from the Bible that have to do with healing. And this woman wrote a book about it, this woman that had had cancer and had a remarkable healing situation. And so this is where I got this. So she had these 40 verses that she put and I put into first person. You know, I am...
blah, blah, blah. I am blah, blah, blah. So putting it into first person, although it's not written that way, I printed them out on big card stock. So I had 40 and I taped them to my wall, that whole wall. So every morning when I got up and every night when I went to bed, I saw them and I read them and I saw them. mean, so, and spoke them. And so that was, know, sometimes you have to go to an extreme like that.
to just have it become part of you. You're speaking the right words. are, you know, again, putting the right things in your mind through your senses. You know, to the point of speaking the right words, there's such a great book called, I think it's called, Messages in the Water by this Japanese scientist. You know that book?
Mm-hmm, I do. Yeah.
So, I mean, that just is such great evidence as to what our words that we speak can do to us or to other people. You know, he put those words on water, different words, love, war, hate, peace. You know, he even did classical music and heavy metal music. And so, you know, all those horrible words created when he froze the water, awful looking
Allison (24:47.054)
nothing symmetrical, the beautiful words created symmetrical, like snowflake type designs. And it was, you know, we're 70 % water. So, I mean, that, that's just an example of how important it is. So, you know, it's just, again, read good things, uplifting things, learn to know who you are. You know, I love all the personality tests, you know, I've done so many over the years and
Yeah.
Allison (25:15.53)
Just that self-knowledge about who am I, know, do a little counseling if you never have, you know, just understanding why your childhood made you who you are and overcoming anything that, you know, may have been in there that wasn't so great.
Listen, maybe this was from the postcards that you put onto the wall or maybe it was a different affirmation altogether, but was there one in particular that you remember being just life-changing for you?
You know, well, this is not to do with health, and I can't, I don't, I can't remember how it goes exactly, but to do with purpose, there is, again, it's from the Bible, it's Ephesians 1, 17 to 19, and it talks about God giving us our purpose, you know.
enlighten my eyes so I know what you've called me here to do. And so there was this guy, this preacher that I came across, I guess it was also in my 40s, who, and he's dead now, but he was, this was like in the 1920s. And when he was in his 20s, he didn't know what he was going to do with his life. And somehow, I don't know if someone told him about that verse or what, but he spoke that verse again in first person for six months.
Each day he spoke that. And at the end of six months, he knew exactly what he was going to do with his life. And I was hearing him talk like when he was probably 80 or something. And so I thought, well, if it worked for him, it'll work for me. And that's what I, and I did that. And what the first time I remember that sort of coming to fruition was like at age 50, when I decided to start teaching women about natural health.
Allison (27:10.806)
And then the second time, I mean, I also did that when I was before I decided to write the book. So I, you know, we all have our areas of spirituality that are really important. And, know, whatever that is for you, that area is what it is for me. And that really wasn't until I got into my forties, but yeah, that was a big one.
And I think that you're spot on there. mean, I've seen it over and over and over again, Allison, and I can even testify in my own life. You can eat all the right foods. You can move your body the right way. You can do all of these holistic health practices and all of them, many of them are important and valid and true for whatever point you're at and what you might be trying to work through. But that connection to
Spirit whatever your spirit is whatever you call God that connection that connection to purpose that connection to something outside of you that is higher Can really heal on a level that I have seen. Yeah food body movement. They think it doesn't even touch
I completely agree. completely agree. know, and it's just like, I mean, there's just so much we don't know. So we have to acknowledge that fact. And to me, it seems like just exactly what you said. If we didn't have that spiritual part, I don't know if all the other stuff would work.
Yeah, I agree. agree. Well, let's talk about this even maybe a little bit deeper because I'm sure some of this really relates into your book. Is there a persistent lie? We'll just call it straight as it is a persistent lie about aging and longevity that you really wanted to dismantle in your book. And what truth were you bringing forward to replace it with?
Allison (29:11.95)
Well, the lie is that it's too late. Um, you know, and it's just not, it's not. I remember at age 55, I guess I had a little mini freak out before 60 and I had not been exercising. And I mean, off and on, like I'd be like, okay, I'm going to go exercise and I'd do something for a week or two. And then I'd just be back to not, you know, it was not consistent. That was just sort of my typical prior 20 years.
You're being consistent being non-consistent.
Yes, exactly. And so I came across a book, it was called Younger Next Year, and it's pretty old. But it was written by a doctor and a lawyer. And the lawyer was 70 when he wrote it. Doctor, I think, was in his 50s. They kind of alternated chapters. And the lawyer was sort of the guy that was older. And it really inspired me because I thought at 55, I thought, my gosh, it's too late. I have waited way too long to get
into some kind of consistent exercise. Well, I hadn't, but what I did at that point was I, and I had to take it to the extreme in my mind. So I got five kids at home still at that point. I think they were all at home and yeah, they were. And I thought, and I was homeschooling for 20 years. So I thought, I don't care if these kids eat cereal for dinner or if they have old clothes or if they don't get educated.
I have to go to my workout appointment and it was an appointment and I just started with twice a week. and that's number one and nothing is going to come in front of it because something can always take us off course. There's always something else. There's a party, there's a invitation, there's a, somebody wants you to do something. There's always something and we have to get to that point where we commit to ourselves because that's what we do.
Allison (31:07.874)
We're real good at committing to other people and following through with promises to other people, but not to ourselves. You know, and I just was like, if I'm not here, if I don't take care of this body, there's not going be a mom for these kids. You know, so I just had to take it to that extreme. Of course I didn't want them, you know, not taken care of, but you know what I mean. I like, I had to. So that was number one. Everything else had to work around that workout schedule. And then little by little I increased and increased.
and I've kept with it. that's good. I'm not even sure what you started asking me on that question, but that's where we ended.
yeah, you answered it. asked if there was a persistent lie and you said it. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Well, and then the opposite, I think you also asked, and so what's the truth? yes. This is another of my favorite lines is your future is hidden in your daily routine. I love that because I was always so inconsistent. I feel like now what I'm trying to do with this book and program is solve the problem of inconsistency because it is a problem. So.
Tansy (32:22.502)
And so that was going to be my next question of what do you do with that inconsistency? Because let's be honest, Allison, I feel like you are a trained natural or a traditional naturopath, right? You've seen it. It's part of why the health industry is a multi-billion dollar industry because we because human beings can really struggle.
And this is this is outside of you the the toxins and the things that do come into our field each and every day but even the struggle of being consistent and staying on track is is very present and so I was gonna ask about that, but I'm betting that that is probably From what you just said worked into the framework of what you bring into the book itself Hmm. Okay. And so in your framework
Totally.
Tansy (33:18.454)
you talk about this self-perpetuating circle of purpose, yeah? And that consists of three things, body work, body work, brain work, and world work. Yes. Yes. Let's talk about that. Can you give us a quick map of what belongs in each circle and how they feed each other so that we can get past this perpetual cycle of on-off, yo-yo dieting and everything that goes on.
And it's not difficult. So let me say that first. The picture of the framework is a circle, the self-perpetuating circle of purpose with the three pillars that you just mentioned, body work, brain work, world work. And all of those are coming from studies in longevity. So I did natural health, but I'm always fascinated with longevity. And so you've got the blue zones, of course, if someone doesn't know what that is, those are the areas in the...
world where the large conglomerations of centenarians are located and they've studied those and what did they have in common. But there's also big Harvard studies on women, like 226,000 women in these studies, multiple studies. Then there's also cancer studies that are for longevity using lifestyle changes where they didn't think there it was going to be a good outcome. So multiple studies kind of brought all those, what they all had in common together and,
put them in, then they all fall in these three categories. So the body work is the physical. What are we eating? Drinking? How are we moving our body? The brain work is the mental, emotional, spiritual, and the world work is purpose and relationships. So the body work, and under each of these, I have the big five. the idea is that you're going to pick something from each category to do for 60 days.
So the book 60 is a good start. Yes, the name means, you well, I was 60, we're talking midlife, but also it's 60 days is a good start because Dr. Caroline Leaf, the neuroscientist who may have heard of, she's pretty popular, again, written 20 books. She's in her late sixties, I think now I love her, but she looks through the microscope and can see the nerve cells in the brain and the formation of habits.
Allison (35:32.534)
And it's at least 60 days. could be up to eight months. It depends on the person, the habit, you know, but it's at least 60 days. So that's why 60 is a good start. Name of the book has that double meaning. And so it leads, the book leads to the 60 day dare. And there's a planner, there's a separate book, a planner for your 60 days that you can also get. And we also have an online group, but the idea is that you're going to, think most people need accountability.
There's the rare person that can do these things on their own, but it's hard. But if you could get a group of friends together to do it that aren't going to flake out on you, or you can get in our group and do it, it's not expensive. Anyway, you pick something from each of the categories and you do that for 60 days. And this is start of creating these new habits. It's not hard. mean, for instance, we just finished a 60-day dare.
And we're about to start another one. And so what I did this last time around in under body work was I added, said, I have to eat 30 grams of protein before I eat anything else in the day. And that has been so fantastic. cannot tell you. I'm also doing, you know, three days of strength training. Well, I'd say probably about day 45 and I've been doing strength training for quite a while. mean, well, almost 10 years. And so.
About day 45, I really started to notice that my quad muscles, like my thighs, the muscles were bigger. They were more there than they had ever been. And just that focus on protein. So that was a big deal. We're on a break right now. And that's a really interesting time to see, am I still doing my habits? Am I not? And maybe I need a little longer.
Maybe it's more than 60 days, but I'm still doing that 30 grams because I like it so much. I just feel like it's better, it's so sustaining. But in that body work, there's eat. So anything to do with what you're eating. You could eliminate some things for the 60 days that you think are not good for you. You could add some things. You could just change some things. You could go on a specific healthy diet if you wanted to do that. Or the second one is drink.
Allison (37:53.486)
Are you drinking at least half your body weight in ounces of water a day? Over 50 % of the ER visits are solved by hydration. So people just don't drink enough water. like to think and I like to imagine my veins and arteries and organs. They need to be supple and pliable and movable instead of hard and rigid. So we got to have the water. We're 70 % water. Our body just needs it. So easy to go through the day without drinking.
any water in some cases. Move the body would be the next thing. So some kind of exercise that you're going to do every day. You don't have to do, you could just say, I'm going to do 45 minutes of exercise. Or if you aren't, if you haven't exercised in a long time, maybe you're just going to walk to the stop sign and back every day. You start where you are. You take baby steps. You're setting yourself up for success for these 60 days. You know what you're, know, and even after a week, if you're like, my gosh, I put
This is too much. can't do this back it off a little bit, you know, so so if you said let's say 45 minutes of exercise a day. Well, it doesn't have to be the same thing every day. Maybe you're to go work out and strength train. Maybe you're going to do some yoga. Maybe you're going to go walk, you know, just but something every day and then sleep seven to nine hours a night. And that's the number one thing for healing anything. We've just got to have that gets the toxins out of our brain all that and there's a
Lots of ways to help that sleeping situation, your environment, just the things that you do, your bedtime routine. I know that's a struggle for a lot of people, especially as they get older. And then breathe, deep breathing sessions. We just don't breathe right in America or the West. I used to teach yoga. I guess I may go back to that at some point, but I love yoga. And that's where I really learned about breathing.
Gosh, some of these books written by Wim Hof or James Nestor. my gosh. Have you seen that book, James Nestor? It's called Breath. It's one of the best books I've read lately. Yeah, it's a great one. Just everything you want, everything on the breath. And he's a good writer. But so yeah, those are the big five in body work.
Tansy (39:59.042)
write that one yet now.
Tansy (40:08.148)
Well, before we move on to brain work, I'm curious. guess, guess actually two things. Number one, because I thought this was interesting. You said that the study was done and found that 60 days is the length of time that it takes for this habit formation. Do you think that that has lengthened because of the decreased attention span and need for quick fixes that maybe modern
living modern society technology has trained our brains to respond to? Or do you think that that always was?
I don't know the answer to that because lots of people, know, forever they're like, it's 21 days to build a habit. It's 30 days to build a habit. But even people say that now and it's just not true. It's at least 60 days. I don't know if that's changed, but it would not surprise me if it had. Just because it's crazy how everything's changed with social media and the internet and flipping through things and the attention spans like 1.3 seconds or something crazy like that.
Yeah, I mean, that's, I just am convinced that's that has rewired brains. For sure. mean, there's just no doubt. I mean, to me, it's harder to sit and read a book. I mean, I have to make myself sit and read a book, you know, because it's just we just live in this world. That's yeah, that's tough. And I, I'm glad I lived in a world before they had that. I think about my kids that grew up in this world and it's just
It's interesting though to see some of the younger generation, like even I'm seeing kids in their 20s and 30s, they're not kids, they're adults, but you know, choosing not to do that, you know, they're trying to like live a life before that existed. So pretty interesting. So I don't know the answer to that, but it's 60. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good question.
Tansy (42:05.614)
was just curious. And I agree with you. I am so grateful. I'm in the Generation X and I'm so grateful that I grew up in that time that I can appreciate both sides of the spectrum. know, yeah.
Yes. Yes. Yeah, all my kids were just, you know, couldn't wait till they got their first phone. And man, I put it off as long as I could. They were the last of their friends to get one.
Well, now before we move into brain work, let's stick with body work for a second. For the listener, is there maybe two low friction, high return practices that a person can do that can start today to start to feel stronger, more resilient, more at home in their body that you would recommend?
Well, I think it depends on where you are and who you are. And I give a lot of different examples in the book, like if this is you or if this is you. But I do think, I mean, water is huge, you know, and that's pretty darn easy. You just have to keep it with you. You really do. If you don't keep it with you. And so I have two different water bottles that are, you know, stainless steel that I
fill up and I like I have one here and I have one up by my bed that they just you know so there's always one around and I also keep I don't like to do this I don't use them too often but I keep some just plastic water bottles like that come with the groceries just in those times where I'm like my gosh I I don't see either one of my water bottles I'm grabbing that and I gotta go right so like again that's setting up my environment
Allison (43:50.914)
to trigger, to get the good results that I want. you know, you just, have to keep it with you at all times. You know, the three times that, or the two times that you can really down some water is right when you wake up. You know, we're dehydrated when we wake up, but it may not feel like it. You may just want your coffee, but truly you're dehydrated. So if you can start by drinking water first,
But also after you would work out or you know go for a walk or something That's another time that you can really get a lot of that water in but you just want to kind of sip on it all day long And the more you drink it, you know, you may think well, I'm not thirsty Well, if you drink that much water for three days, you're gonna become thirsty the more water you drink the thirstier you will be and so then it will become normal pretty quickly So, I mean that's almost the very basic one if you're not drinking enough water
I if you want to lose some weight, drinking a lot of water is key. it's just, it'll happen a lot easier if you're drinking a lot of water. But also I'd say walking that that's a pretty easy one. And back to environment triggers behavior. Those tennis shoes need to be out and in your vision, not hidden in the closet, like sitting out and even stick your socks in there. You know, I just, like to say just lace up your shoes.
Once you've done that, you're closer to walking out the front door and just walking down the street. So those probably be the two easiest, quickest, basic ones that are going to start really making a difference.
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And I love that you emphasize those two because they are so easy, but yet really foundational, foundation building. yeah, love it. All right. So let's talk about brain work.
Yes, so that's the mental, emotional, spiritual side of things. And the key areas are lowering stress, which a lot of this does. Pretty much everything we're talking about goes to lowering stress, which is a huge problem. So we really have to watch our stress, but we also need to be optimistic. We want to follow our intuition, develop our intuition. So some of these are
I'll say them real quick, write, read, clear, meditate and create. So write is for that person that's just got so much in their brain and they need to get it down on paper. We talked about that before, you know, that pen to paper, that handwriting thing, there's something about that process that just is so helpful in clearing our mind and like organizing our mind and even regulating our nervous system, you know, just to get what's in our brain out.
Allison (48:11.426)
Do it every day. So that might be something you do every day. Also though, maybe in that same area would be maybe the person that has some trauma they need to deal with, whether or grief, you know, recent grief or not recent, but, or, you know, whatever trauma that, you know, we, we heal from trauma in levels. Like we heal from it here, but a year later, we may still need to be healing from it. Right? It's a process.
maybe a whole lifetime process that we just need to just write our feelings. This is how I feel, you know, whatever, nobody's going to read it. You just, you know, you're just getting it out. So, and you know, you know, is that going to be the thing I need to do for these 60 days? Second one is read. That's nonfiction, something uplifting. could be, you know, self personal transformation, self development, business development, improving skills, you know, something that's
improving or bettering you or helping you with self-knowledge could be a personality test type stuff just you know something in that area then clear is two things one is decluttering we talked about that that's what i did this last 60 days so it's just 15 minutes of decluttering some area every day sometimes i set the timer i did it for 15 minutes and i was done other times it went on for an hour or two because i just totally got into it
But for instance, I love this drawer right here, my top drawer on my desk. I've tolerated for two years. It was a disaster, full. It was awful. So I finally faced it I'm so happy. You know, just, that just does something to us. And then the other part of that would be detoxing your home. So working to go around your home, get all those chemicals out, replace those products with, you know, good plant-based cause that stuff's going.
If it's on your skin, it's going into your bloodstream. skin is a sieve and it all goes in. So it's usually the laundry room under the kitchen sink in the bathroom. know, shampoo, toothpaste, makeup, skincare, all the stuff. So if that's an area that you haven't dealt with that you could spend that 15 minutes, you know, figuring out what you're going to order, going through and seeing what you don't, what you need to get rid of and just, you know, get your home in good shape in that area.
Allison (50:36.59)
Meditate would be meditate, pray, or do affirmations, like a 10 minute session every day. And then create would be a 30 minute art making session, which lowers cortisol. And not for the purpose of like if you're a painter and you sell your paintings, that's not this. That's going to be in world work. But this is more for, again, the de-stressing, just
Calming I loved a needlepoint. I've been doing that for about four years and it's just like my reward for the end of the day But just and I give a ton of examples of things you could do and maybe you spend that 30 minutes Figuring out what you want to do trying different things if you don't really have something that you've done You know like adult coloring books people love those or just you'll find something that you love to do So that's that's brain work
And so I really enjoy that brain work is about training for cognitive stamina, for emotional agility, for joy, not just less stress. I love that.
and love that.
Is there a ritual in regards to brain work, is there a ritual that really protects somebody's focus and their mood? Like in the whole realm of cognitive stamina, emotional agility, is there something that really protects the focus and mood, not just lowering stress?
Allison (52:08.27)
I mean, I would lean toward those two at the end, the meditation, prayer, and affirmations. I mean, that's doing something to your brain. There's just no doubt about it. Your focus on that, whichever of those it is. But I also would think that the, I know that the art making is going to do that too. For instance, like with needlepoint, you know, it's just, it's a, this real focus on
these different threads and these different stitches and this needle and figuring things out and learning things. that's, and I keep, I'm on Instagram and so I like all these needlepoint people, right? My Instagram feed is all about health and needlepoint. So I get all this stuff about how it's good for that. And I'm like, yay, this is awesome. And other kinds of.
Art making like that is so good for the brain. That's a wonderful thing.
And I'm glad you emphasize that because we have here at the Energy Fix, we have a lot of creatives, we have a lot of neurodivergent brains, we have a lot of people with ADHD and so forth. so creativity is such a beautiful way to hone the brain in and to also bring in that focus and mood. So I'm actually over here just loving that you said that because that feels so aligned.
It really is.
Allison (53:36.142)
And so fun. So fun. mean, and people not even do it alone at your house, but people get together and do it. You know, there's like there's this it's like an hour and a half away. But every Thursday night, there's this needlepoint group down in this big city that I'm near that, you know, I like to go to as often as I can. And, you know, there's not just for that. There's all kinds. I follow this one lady who I guess I'm to have to look more at her. I literally found her today who
something she does something with museums but her whole thing is talking about museums and art making and how it's so good for the brain and you know in the in terms of aging and stuff and and that now museums are figuring that out so they're not only having the museum pieces that you go in and look at they're having areas where people can congregate and literally like do needlework or do sculpting or do
you know, whatever with their hands. It's about doing stuff with your hands. So it's really interesting.
Yeah, I've seen that more and more and I think that's really interesting that you just said that because I never put two and two together. I just always thought, well, know, people like hands-on people. There's a lot of people that are kinesthetic learners. And so I think that's really interesting that that is going, no pun intended, that's going hand in hand. Interesting. Okay. World work. Let's get onto the third one.
Yeah, I know. I love it.
Allison (55:04.55)
And this this is fun, too So so in world work in body work and brain work, you're gonna choose one thing and do it every day for 60 days In world work you can do one thing every day for 60 days or you can rotate among them each week So number one is called dream now on that one If you're the person that's where I was when I turned 60, I was restless I knew I wanted to do something different, but I didn't know what it was
this might be for you. It's 60 questions, again 60, that you're going to answer one each day for the 60 days and journaling. And sometimes the questions are a quick answer, sometimes they'll take a little longer and you'll just have to think maybe a little harder about them. But those I really believe are going to lead you down the path of what you could be doing now with your life. And then the next one's engage, which is
you're going to engage with another person in a positive conversation, whether it's in person, on the phone, FaceTime, not texting, but you know, this really is going to maybe be for that person that's lonely, which that's a lot of people. And especially as they get older, you know, again, it could be the empty nest, divorce, widow, and you know, add on top of that, maybe the introvert who's real happy in their introverted.
home, which I can relate to, really can, but engaging with other people is huge. In fact, in the longevity circles, they're seeing a lot of stuff lately where they're saying that may be the number one thing that we are in relationship with other people. So you would, you know, let's say you chose that once a week, you're going to do that once a week. Well, that means you're to have to make an effort to call somebody or say, you know, can we go get coffee? You want to go out to dinner? You want to
get together and you know, whatever, go to a movie, although you'd be good to have the conversation in there too. Call somebody who lives across the country that you haven't seen in a long time. You know, just make the effort to engage and be in relationship with people. Then number three is gather and that's on the spiritual side of things. So all of these people in all these studies were part of a spiritual community of some sort, whether it was going to church or whether it was
Allison (57:29.23)
some small group or even a one-on-one for the purpose of talking about, know, it could be a spiritual counselor or whatever. So that's a big factor. And then help would be volunteering, which that, you know, lots of people find their purpose in that area. So there's a million ways to volunteer. You should Google, you know, ways to volunteer and you will be shocked at how many things you could look into. And I always like to stress here, you know, I think God put the desires of our heart in us.
And for the purpose of us doing it and pursuing what those desires are, you know, in the area of like, how can we help other people? How can we make a difference in the world? Even if it's just one person, you know, a grandchild or whatever, you know, but that we don't get sucked into volunteering for something that it's not really what we want to do. It's not really our thing, but that can happen so easily and people can kind of be guilted into that kind of stuff. But I promise you,
If you don't do that thing, there is going to be the person that that is meant for and they are going to rise up and be there and do that thing. But if you're in the way, they can't. So, you know, so you got to really do what you feel called to do. And then act. The last one would be if you know what your new purposes or new thing, then spend an hour a day on it. Maybe it's like on the side as you're doing some other things. So so you can rotate through those.
think world work is my favorite out of all three of these because it's the one that's just not talked about or emphasized as much. It's not the one that people usually gravitate towards when they're trying to change their health, when they're trying to bring in the longevity, right?
is huge. mean, what am I doing? What gets me excited? What can I, you know, what, we want to wake up and be excited for the day or just be like, have something that we're going to get into and that, you know, it's going to just
Allison (59:28.43)
Just be that thing that we're meant to do.
What have you seen shift maybe with people that you've worked with or people that you talk to? What have you seen shift in regards to their physical or emotional health when they've started to implement things like belonging, purpose, these concepts from world work?
I mean, I had this one lady that was going through and we've just finished this last one, or it was our beta test really. And so I need to get some more feedback on it, but I know this one woman who started it and was 60 and she was very negative and worried and scared even just about this point in life.
That was how she was talking in the very beginning. And then I watched her because there's opportunities to make comments on things every day. We've got a post and and she, you know, I could just see her transformation. She was doing those dream questions throughout the 60 days and just, know, by the time she got to the end, she was excited. She was just thrilled about this point in her life. So that watching her transform over that period of time was really great. Yeah.
What about from a personal level? What longevity strategies from the book changed your day-to-day life that made the most impact for you personally?
Allison (01:00:59.01)
I mean, that, well, the 30 grams of protein was fantastic. but that breathing, did, the other thing I did, I did two things in body work was the breathing session. And I had done these breathing sessions, I mean, five years ago, I was doing them, but I, not consistently, you know, I do them for a while and then I dropped off. And so I really wanted to be consistent because if you can do them in the morning, they really kind of fire your different, you know, systems in your body.
They just kind of get things going for the day. It's a great thing once you read about it. And it's just like seven, eight minutes. It doesn't take that long. Well, so I'm going through doing that. Sometimes I, maybe two thirds of the time I would do it in the morning. Another portion of the time I'd do it mid afternoon because I just didn't do it in the morning. And there were a few times that I was like 10 o'clock at night. It's like, my gosh, I didn't do the breathing. I got to do it right now, which is not a bad time to do it either before you go to bed.
But I really wanted to do it in the morning. And so I finally realized I'm going to have to habit stack this, you know, where you put a new habit you want to do with another habit that you have already. And so what I did, so in the morning, one of my favorite things to do is drink my coffee. It's healthy coffee and it's, it's half calf. So I get about two, three quarters of a cups, two cups. They're about three quarters full. That's kind of what my little.
what do you call French press will do. And so I decided that had to come between the two cups of coffee. I saw, could drink the first cup. Then I had to do the breathing session and then I could get the second cup. And when I started doing that, and even now, even in the break, I'm still doing it. So that's the good news. that really changed it for me. So, you know, here I wrote the book, but I messed up on that one, right? We're not all perfect. We're just.
doing the best we can little by little. And so that little shift, and that was like 45 days in, that little shift made it completely change for me. So that's an example.
Tansy (01:03:08.878)
And so this container you've been talking about that is that the 60 day dare? Yes. Yeah, yeah. So this container that you've been talking about, I am sure that people start out really excited and they're all in. And then after a few weeks, it starts to die down and the momentum starts to slow and people get really overwhelmed and maybe start to fall off. How do you suggest people push through? Well, stick on.
Yeah, that's kind of the purpose of the group, the online group. It's on an app for your phone and then it's also on the computer. so there's the community that does a post every day that hopefully people interact with. There's a tracking system if you like a digital tracking. There's also the planner. I think the paper planner is important to have, just a daily planner.
But we also have a weekly accountability Zoom call. And you can be there live or you can watch the replay. But people will, and these are stats from just like New Year's resolutions and things like this. People will typically start falling off about three weeks into something. And you just have to encourage each other. And it is hard. And that's why we have the accountability Zoom calls, because I know.
But we really emphasize just baby steps, setting yourself up for success. Don't bite off too much. know, consider what does your calendar look like for the next 60 days? Are you home most of that time? Are you traveling some of that time? How much of that time are you traveling? How could you accomplish what you want to do while you're traveling? Because that's the hardest part. But there are ways and we talk about those ways.
And we certainly, you know, in those Zoom calls, can, somebody might be like, I've got a trip coming up. How am I gonna do this? You know, so we talk. So like on that decluttering, you know, well, when I was traveling, I was doing my phone, digital stuff, email decluttering, app decluttering, you know, just all the different things. So there's ways to do things. you know, that's, it's just accountability. You know, there's really,
Allison (01:05:32.852)
no other way to do it. And a person, you I think we all get to a threshold for different things in our lives, right? We get to a point where we're just not going to tolerate things anymore. Like how long have we tolerated, well, not keeping promises to ourselves? You know, I think we do get to maybe about 16, we get sick of it. It's just like, you know, so are you ready for this?
You know, are you ready to make a difference in your life? To really start making those changes that, like I said, your future is hidden in your daily routine. So who do you want to be a year from now or five years from now? Well, you will have to do some things and it just takes some intention. Because those things we're talking about don't take that much time each day.
One of the things that I think has been a great gift as I've gotten older and I believe is going to become more, especially based off of what you've been saying, is that I've noticed, especially it really started when I hit 40, that the filter has started to lessen. And I don't, I care, but I don't care.
Yeah, it's true.
Tansy (01:06:48.046)
quite as much as maybe other people's opinions, right? And so I'm looking forward to, you know, the 50s and the 60s time and as that progresses, because I agree, even just on a small level myself, I've seen that where you get to a point, you're just, you're just done. You're done tolerating some of these behaviors that don't serve you anymore.
Yeah, you're done tolerating maybe how people treat you. Yeah. mean, even in that area too, you know, I love the line. Some people don't like this line, but we teach people how to treat us. It's true. Yeah, by accepting, you know, and being okay with whatever that thing is. And that goes across how are we treating ourselves? Same thing. How are we, you know, again, not doing what we say we want to do?
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Tansy (01:07:43.47)
Yeah, yeah. As we kind of pull all of this together, everything you talked about, I would love to hit on three different main groups and just see what your suggestion is on these three main groups. Okay, so number one, let's talk about like the emotional resilience piece of it. Those that are going through trauma, grief, transition, identity shifts.
How do we metabolize this? Thinking about the stuff in your book, thinking about these steps, how do we metabolize these shifts without letting them completely calcify in the body?
Yeah, I think, you you have to remember the only way out is through. Can't go around it. You know, you have to embrace it because it is part of your story. We've all had trauma, I think most of us, and it's easy to be like, I'm putting that over there and I'm just going to live my life right here. But no, it is part of our story. And so what I mean by the only way out is through is we have to process it. And that writing part.
is huge, think. Now, ultimately, you know, be good to go talk to somebody. I have a counselor that, you know, I'll pop in and out over the years, you know. Sometimes, oh, just, it's good to go talk to her. And other times, you know, I haven't seen her for several years. So, you know, it just, think those two parts of writing and talking are really big. you know, just that journaling down that stuff, it's, you know, it's... And grief,
You know, I lost my sister a year ago, 10 years younger than me and it's terrible. And so, you know, it's, it just takes time. You know, really it takes time, but also just processing, talking about it. I we have to talk about it with somebody, whether it's a counselor or a good friend. Right. So, we want to be mentally tough, you know, and that.
Allison (01:09:52.578)
which goes to what you're saying, resilience. And really doing this 60 day dare is creating that. It is creating a mentally tough person. Someone that's going to say, I am doing these 60 days come hell or high water. You know, I am, it's, it's back to keeping that promise to yourself. And so that kind of the combination of those things, whether it's this 60 day dare or something, right? Something that is going to just
create that mental resilience in you. But I think this is a great option. But in combination with those other things, the writing, the talking.
Mm. I love that. That's so helpful. Let's talk about category number two, then women, women specifically who are carrying these invisible loads, or I will even say women and single dads that don't have that extra support, right? Caregivers that have the careers, the relationships. How do we create
health practices that are sustainable in a very real life way, not just in this fantasy schedule that seems really great on paper. How do those individuals who are caring so much really do it?
It's hard. It's really hard. mean, you know, I one thing I think is really can be really revealing is to do a time log. So like a food log, you know, if you were trying to figure out what am I eating, you know, and it's easy to go through your days and, you know, snack on a few things, but you don't remember that you snacked on a few things. Well, the same goes for a time log like do a time log, you know, for a week. And I mean,
Allison (01:11:39.958)
You carry around a piece of paper and a pad, or maybe you put it in your phone notes app, everything you're doing all day long. And then you review that. you know, are there times in there that you're sitting on the couch scrolling for an hour? I mean, there could be, you know, because you just need some relief. I get it. You know, and it's just like, all you can do is flop down on the couch.
after you've assessed what are you doing every day, all day, are there some things that you can change? You know, do you look at that and go, I don't really need to do this thing and I don't really need to do that thing and I could move this thing over there. mean, you know, that's the only thing we can do. And so just maybe you need to just reorient your day, you know, as much as you can. mean, I
I do understand, you know, the person that is carrying that heavy burden and that is just like from sun up to sun down doing something. But, you know, I I love this. There's this one lady I follow that she has people. She's like, OK, every time you go to the bathroom, you're going to do 20 squats. And I love that. I know what a great little thing to habit stack right on top of what you're doing. Those squats, those are a big deal. Those little.
those will develop those quad muscles. So whether it's something simple like that or something else, but I really think once you assess that, and it's so hard to generalize on that, I could definitely talk someone through that, but really assess that and just go, because you may be at that threshold where you're just like, my life has to change. Somehow things have got to change. And if you're at that threshold, then you're willing to cut some things out.
Here's one thing I love to do. And it's actually one of the questions in the dream questions, but it's to write down kind of the 10 or 15 or even 20 things you do in your life. You know, well, I go to this every week and I do this every week and I, know, just kind of in sort of the main things you do every week. And then you're going to assign them a letter, one of three, an F for fully aligned.
Allison (01:14:05.654)
an S for semi-aligned and a U for unaligned. the question is when you think about that thing, what does your body feel like? Does it feel constricted and, I don't even like to think about that thing. That thing stresses me out. You know, just something negative. Or does your body feel expansive and like you love that thing. It's the most fun thing you do every day. It brings you joy. You feel like you're in your purpose.
Right? And then maybe there's some that are just in the middle. You're just not sure how you feel about that thing. And then that's just a kind of simple way to look back at those things that are not aligned, that are unaligned, misaligned, and be like, is there a way I can change these? Is there a way I can maybe get rid of these? So those are a couple of ideas.
Getting real getting real with yourself real with your time real with what's going on
Time is our only resource, really. I mean, there are other resources, but really time is the big one. And I think at this point in my life, I, know, another exercise is figuring out your five top core values. Well, I, every time, every bit of my life, every bit of time that I'm living, I want to be aligned with those five core values in some way, or I don't want to do it. That's simple. You know, so.
may have to do some things that I don't want to do, of course, but in general.
Tansy (01:15:36.076)
Yeah. All right. And so finally, somebody who's very inflamed, who is exhausted, maybe they're going through lot of hormonal shifts and they haven't figured out how to shift that yet, right? Like they might feel a little lost on this journey. What is a winnable step that they could take that you would want them to take right now, today, not someday?
I think I would start with a breathing session, quite honestly, just to slow down. You know, our regulatory system is such a big deal and that whole sort of stress, fight or flight, adrenaline, cortisol, all those things. Yeah, we just need to calm down and breathe. And, you know, just to sit back and take a five minute, a 10 minute would be even better moment to deep.
breathe all the way down into your stomach. You know, and as we do the deep breathing, you're really supposed your stomach should expand as you inhale ours in America, we breathe up here in our chest way too shallow. But if we can deep breathe all the way down and then just try to, you know, clear our mind. I mean, I think that's going to be the best thing to start with this moment. And it's in those moments that
Revelations come to us, not every day, but it's usually in those moments that we have ideas of, okay, you know, I think I'm going to call that person today, or I think I'm going to make that appointment with that natural doctor so they can help me with my hormones, you know, which are important to figure out.
This has been an incredible conversation. Thank you so much. As we dive in here to finish up talking about where people can find you and to buy your book and what you got going on, I started this new thing where I'm bringing in some rapid fire questions because number one, I think they're fun. But also number two, I just want to get to know you even more outside of the work that you've been doing. Well, maybe it all overlaps, but still.
Tansy (01:17:47.946)
So let's just do some rapid-fire questions. So remember, three questions here. Whatever comes to the top of your head, you don't need long answers. You can just say whatever is on your heart. All right. First question. I want you to finish the sentence. I feel younger the moment I stopped.
gosh, worrying. That's the first thing that came to mind. That's good one. Caring what people think would probably expand on that. And that has come with age.
and
Tansy (01:18:25.25)
That's a good one. Yeah. All right. Number two. What's your tiny non-negotiable daily habit that moves the needle for you the most?
slow mornings.
Yes. I protect my mornings. I love a slow morning. You know, everybody's different. We've all got different circadian rhythms and when we're at our best and all of that. But I love my slow mornings.
Love it. All right. And then finally, what is a song that you play when you want yourselves to feel 25 again?
Linda Ronstadt heatwave. you know that?
Tansy (01:19:09.372)
I do know that, yes.
My husband knows that if he plays that song, I'll start dancing.
Has he ever played that song just to get you to start dancing?
Yes, he has. He's a lawyer and he's a guitar player, so he's way into music.
Tansy (01:19:32.458)
I love it. Alison, this has been awesome. Let us know, where can people find you? Where can they find your book? And what do you got going on in your work right now?
Well, they can find me. My name is my website, my whole name, allisonmccune-davis.com. If you go to slash links, there's a free download. There's links to where to buy the book. But of course it's Amazon, all the places to buy books. It's also on Audible, mostly social. I'm on Facebook and Instagram. You could send me a message. And right now I'm just focused on the
on this platform, this area where people can do the 60 day dare and just like I said, we just did our beta test, we're about to start another one. And so that's really fun.
As always, all those links will be down in the show notes, so make sure you jump on down there and click on those links and get into Alison's world. I almost called you Linda because...
Linda Ronstadt. That's funny, I hadn't thought about that in a while.
Tansy (01:20:35.854)
Alison, do you have any last words that you would like to lay on the hearts of the listeners for today?
I think I would just, I just always go back to the future is hidden in your daily routine. I think, you know, if you can remember that, that's just gonna be key to where you wanna, who you wanna be, who you wanna become.
Thank you so much for being here and thank you so much for sharing your heart, your passion, your wisdom to the world and letting us know that it is never too late to start and that you are always stepping forward no matter what your age is.
Amen.
Allison really brought the wisdom in today's session and deep dive into so many things that I think many of us just take for granted.
Tansy (01:21:32.396)
Jump down into the show notes and grab the links to get Allison's free immune support PDF and to also take a peek at her 60 day dare community. And while you're there, maybe take a sneak peek at my wish and tell list. It is open and if you're local, come say hi at the shows. As you move through this week, let's just step into a few reflection questions.
Which lever will you pull first this week? Body work, brain work, or world work? And name one tiny action that you're going to do to step closer to that. And what's one belief about aging that you are retiring today? And what story are you going to choose instead?
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