Tansy Rodgers (00:13.762)
Welcome back to the Energy Fix, a podcast dedicated to help you balance your energetic body by diving deep into the sweet world of all things health and spirituality. My name's Tansy and I'm an intuitive crystal reiki energy healer, energetic nutrition and holistic health practitioner, and a crystal jewelry designer. It's time to talk all things energy. Let's dive in. You know that quiet hum?
under your day. You know, the one that says something's off. Even when your labs are fine and your to-do list is color coded and you think you have everything under control, something just feels off. Sometimes it isn't more effort that we need. It's actually less noise, less interference, less chaos, less of what isn't ours, less of the roles that we picked up to keep the peace.
Because when we lay those down, the body finally whispers back, hey, I remember you. Today, I'm sitting with someone who lives in that exact space where energy, emotion, and identity meet and the nervous system can finally exhale. Emmanuel Zavayos is the founder of Compass Healing Center.
a holistic practitioner who works with emotion code and body code, and is the co-founder of HEAL, Have Empathy and Love. He's supported thousands of people in releasing trapped emotions, untangling generational patterns, and coming home to this truest version of themselves. He's thoughtful and grounded and not afraid of the deep recurrence. You're gonna hear that in this conversation. We're going to be going into some real
depth conversations, things that don't always get conversed in this energy healing world. That's the good stuff. That's the fun stuff. And so we're going to be diving deep into all of that. But before we actually dive in, just two quick invitations to connect in person.
Tansy Rodgers (02:30.56)
This weekend, if you are listening to this in real time, you can catch me at the Spiritual Holistic Expo in Allentown, Pennsylvania at the Fairgrounds on Saturday and Sunday, September 20th and 21st. And then on October 4th and 5th, I will be at the Spirit of Oneness in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania at the Scottish Rite. So,
If your system really feels like it needs a reset, if you want to come out and say hi and check out what is new in the jewelry collection and in the crystal side and your local, definitely come on out. I would love to connect in. And those shows, they're just a vibe. So there's so much to explore, so much to see, so much going on. And the energy is always point on. So, yeah, come on out. It is
Good times. And then finally, four days are left to pitch your idea for the new Crystal Healing series here on the Energy Fix Podcast. I'm going to choose one listener topic and the winner gets a free Crystal Healing bag of their choice. The deadline for any submissions is Monday, September 15th. So if you haven't gotten your submission in and you really want to, then head down to the show notes.
and you can find the email to send me your submission or you can just email me at info at tansyrodgers.com.
All right, it is time. It is time to get into this incredible conversation. I was so inspired going through this whole conversation with Emanuel and I think you're going to be too. All right, your tea or your coffee is in hand, right? Your shoulders are down, you're all relaxed. Here is the conversation with Emanuel. Let's dive in.
Tansy Rodgers (04:29.787)
Welcome to the Energy Fix Podcast, Emmanuel. Thank you so much for being here today.
So glad to be here. Thank you.
We're gonna dive into my favorite kind of conversations, which is all around energy, energy work, and the many facets in which we can explore there. But before we really get into that conversation, let's get to know you, Emmanuel. I want to know where you're at in your season of life right now. Is there a word or a phrase you're really connecting to?
So the word that I've been connecting to a lot is the word selflessness. And I just have a feeling that, you know, when I use this word in my life, whenever you're going through hard times or just a hard time overcoming something, what I've noticed is that selflessness can be a great healing balm for yourself and someone else. And so I kind of want to say that you'd be shocked at how much you can help others.
While you're going through pain and that there's some alleviation of the pain while you're helping instead of focusing inward and going more into like victim mode and so So that's kind of my word is selflessness
Tansy Rodgers (05:45.774)
And I'm sure that that's probably been on a certain level a journey for you and so to be moving into that place of selflessness, but I'm curious how you are really working to connect to that deeper. How are you practicing that?
So one of the things that could happen as a as an energy medicine practitioner and owning a practice for 10 years is that sometimes we put our clients on top of everything in your life. your clients become like your best friend and you're helping them out and other areas in your life could feel neglected. You know, and so there's a there's a podcast that I used to run called Healing the Healer and it seems that healers need healing themselves.
instead of being almost codependent on your clients that you work with, that to keep looking into your life introspectively and saying, what areas can't bleed because I'm helping and focusing on other people. And so my mother unfortunately passed away with pancreatic cancer as an oncologist, but she was a very holistic oncologist, which is a very rare breed nowadays. But again, it's like in my mind, I'm like, if you just would have taken care more of your relationships or your health.
maybe you'd still be here. And it's like, we need you around because you're the healer. So I just think it's important that whatever mission you find yourself in to help others that you use the same modality on yourself and continue working on yourself.
Hmm, that's beautiful. And I a thousand percent agree with you. I mean, I know even for myself, even since a young little girl, I've always been more of that healer kind of person, even if I wasn't practicing healing. And then when I brought this into my full time career, I really just thought I could just go with it and do operate B how I've
Tansy Rodgers (07:47.754)
always do operate and being, right? And the reality is that just wasn't true. And it's become so much more acutely, I've become so much more acutely aware of it, that you have to heal yourself. Healers need to heal themselves in order to be able to continue to do the work they're meant to do.
Yep. So I'm in total agreement with that. I feel like again, some of the greatest healers that we probably would be admiring currently right now are not here with us because they did not heal the healer, you know, and so that's, we need our type of people to live very, very long, happy lives and to not just think of others all the time. There is kind of like a toxic selflessness, you know?
where you're just kind of overdoing it to help others so that you can ignore your own shadows. And that's what I'm trying to avoid.
Mm, I love that. I love that. All right, well, let's really just get into it, Emmanuel. I want to know what called you to this path in the first place. Energy healing, regression work, scanning the body layers into something, isn't something you probably just stumbled upon. Was there a specific moment, awakening a breakdown, that opened this door for you and allowed you to step forward?
That's a great question. So one of the things that I think about is that our origin stories, I believe in my philosophy is like, it didn't start here on this earth that we had a pre-earth life, where we were looking forward to a certain life that would help our souls grow. The ironic part, the ironic dichotomy is that our conscious brain wants comfort.
Emanuel Zevollos (09:34.88)
and our subconscious brain wants growth or our soul wants growth. So it's this weird battle between us and our spiritual selves and our carnal selves. Like some people call it in Christianity, like our fallen nature that tends to kind of lean towards laziness and excess, you know? And so what I've noticed is that before I came here, I probably said I want to be born under two doctors.
And this would assist me in being open to this type of work. And then one of the doctors, which was my mom, was the one that was more focused on the holistic side. And she was persecuted for what she knew and what she was doing with her clients or her patients independently in her garage, like testing their pH levels. And she was doing acupuncture work on me. So I'd wake up looking like a hellraiser, a horror film, and be asking what's going on. And she says, I'm trying to take away your nausea, go back to sleep.
I grew up with a woman that was outside thinking. And the point is, is outside thinking is great as long as it benefits someone. Outside thinking can also make you very eccentric, which doesn't really serve anyone really. But if outside thinking has like a benefit to other people, like for her, for example, there were cancer patients that never came back to her. That's the goal, right? You get healed, but then maybe it was an unorthodox way. I'm like, I wonder how many un...
other people I can help in the most unorthodox way. And so I, for sure her influence, even my grandma, I did some research on this. She was putting a small egg on me when I was having night terrors when I was a kid. And I found out that that was from like a Peruvian culture of, know, like passing the egg in the body and then releasing it. And, but I never knew why she did it. I thought it was because I had lung issues when I was younger. So I've kind of grew up with a little bit of like,
not mysticism, but definitely like some spiritualism in my family. But then my mother for sure was the queen of, you know, doing outside things like acupuncture, reiki medicine, and how you can combine that Eastern and Western medicine together. And she really felt like that's the future. The future should be Eastern Western medicine kind of combining arms together. long, long story short is 2015, I had, you know,
Emanuel Zevollos (11:55.276)
Basically the I was I was reaching the bottom of the well where I was unhappy with everything in my life And you know rock bottom just the beautiful news about rock bottom is that it's it's solid You can't really can't go further down and so that allows you to kind of bend your knees and catapult And I found a book called the emotion code and because i'm a christian I I was very careful and very wary of like I don't want this to go against my beliefs but I do want to like
like grow beyond just reading self-development books, which you probably know, Tansy, some people who read self-development books and then succeed crazy amounts of success in life. There are some people that read the same book and then they don't have success. And I always kind of wonder like they read the same book, they understand it both perfectly. Why does that person have success and that person doesn't? And I really feel like it has to do with energetic imbalances in the body.
Yeah, you you mentioned outside thinking and sometimes when it doesn't have that benefit that comes along with that outside thinking with that benefit, I think that it can really give this whole work, this energy healing work, this conversation we're going to have today, a bad rap. You know, it can make it look like it's just this airy floaty thing, this fluffy conversation when in reality,
It spans so much deeper and I personally think it is a large part of the root cause of a lot of our health and a lot of our health conditions.
Absolutely. here's the thing is one of my favorite books by T. Harvecker, it's called The Secrets of the Millionaire Mind. I remember in there he said something very powerful and it's always stuck with me. He said, you could either be rich or you could be right, but you can't be both. And I remember when I heard that, was like, wait a minute. I'm like, I feel like I have a lot of friends and family that love to be right, but they're actually broke in that area in their life.
Emanuel Zevollos (14:00.844)
And so then in that case, we can even come to another quote, which says that you buy someone's opinion, you buy their lifestyle. And the problem with that is, that we've been listening to people that are broker than we are and and wondering why our life isn't working. And so I I found around age 26, something happened to me where I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. And I wish that upon everyone who hears my voice is if you haven't had a moment where you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, there are beautiful doors.
that are awaiting you if you get to that point. And I just remember saying, I'm going to look for more ways to prove myself wrong from now on. And I even used to write in my journal KQE, which stands for Keep Questioning Everything. And I used to kind of remind myself that I'm like, if I find truth, it should be able to be spotlighted. should be, I could stomp on it. I can punch it. I can throw it around and it'll still remain what it is, which is truth.
And I have to think outside of my system that's broken. Otherwise, I'm going to keep getting what the system has always given me.
Yeah. Well, let's talk a little bit about the ancestral roots. Holistic health, nutrition work, when it comes to epigenetics, I think is more, it's becoming more widely accepted, right? But when we talk about the emotional energy, the energetic part of this, it's not as much talked about. So I would love to talk about your work that is deeply rooted in epigenetic patterns.
How do generational wounds show up in the body and how do we begin to unravel what's ours versus what we've inherited and how do we know the difference?
Emanuel Zevollos (15:47.566)
So one of the things that I think is good for people who are listening is that there are certain emotions that probably are a lot heavier than normal that you say, this doesn't feel like this is mine, you know? So for example, sure, you should have some sort of healthy fear when you're starting your own business, absolutely. But do you have to have paralyzing fear? And where is that paralyzing fear from? Both of your parents are very successful.
There's really no reason to have that. It's not like you saw an image of your parents not succeeding. It makes no sense. Or if, for example, you're with your partner and this is a very healthy relationship, but you keep seeing themes in your mental mind about abandonment. You know, why do I feel abandoned? So what happens is that you're a great, great, great, great, somebody great up there was dealing with a very traumatizing issue.
And they produce this emotion. It's usually the size of a tennis ball to a cantaloupe. So for example, when Dr. Brad wrote the book, he was a chiropractor and he, you know, he just did applied kinesiology, which is testing your arm and asking certain questions. But one of the things that he was really interested in was what's the main root cause of why we're dealing with physical and emotional issues. And we have to come to the realization that our body is producing emotions all the time.
The liver, for example, produces anger, bitterness, guilt, hatred, resentment. That's the liver. And every organ and gland produces these emotions. And they're supposed to process through our body. But if they don't, they get stuck in our body. And that's called a trapped emotion. And we have hundreds and dozens of these. But what we may not be aware of is that a lot of these are inherited. And let's say your great, great, great grandmother went through a terrible divorce and then and then she had her son.
then it kind of got passed down. There's a likelihood that that betrayal that she experienced passes down to the son. And they've tested this in 2015, I believe it was like, I think in the Journal of Medical Association, they talked about the Jewish survivors of the Holocaust and how a lot of their great-great-great-great-grandchildren suffer with PTSD, depression, and anxiety. But they've also done, unfortunately, because I'm not a big fan of
Emanuel Zevollos (18:14.176)
lab rats and animals getting tested on. But they tested a mother rat that got shocked in a certain part of the maze and put a little child there, their child, all of a sudden that child can't move or kind of get stunned or stopped the same place the mother got shocked at. And they've tested this, I believe, like between 10 to 13 generations and it still sticks of that area for some reason that
their progenitor rats don't do well in that corridor, in that maze. And so it happens with animals and I've seen in humans in the last 10 years, me doing this, sometimes 30 to 40 generations we could still be holding onto. And it also causes a major component for phobias as well.
Wow, fascinating. And so the stuff that you talked about, and I know the emotion code and the work that's done by Dr. Brad, but you also use some biofeedback tools. And so thinking about the emotion code, thinking about these biofeedback tools, is this a part of how you connect in and you can find these trapped emotions? You can find where things are hiding, hanging out, and?
what to do about them.
Yes, basically what happens is, a good client would come to me and we would do this long distance. that's called proxy work. So the convenience of this work is that in quantum physics, they call it, know, non-locality or quantum entanglement or spooky effect at a distance is what Einstein called it. So it's very normal to the quantum physicists, what I'm doing with someone else to help them out. And what happens is they usually come with some sort of symptoms.
Emanuel Zevollos (20:04.778)
And the symptom could be like, have headaches all the time. And then I find an inherited emotion of, you know, sadness that came from somebody, right? And then their headaches are gone. But it could be multiple things, right? But with the biofeedback work that my wife does, she's a practitioner herself, but she's more into a company called Solex, and they have this biofeedback frequency device called the AO scan. And this device is way ahead of its time. I kind of make a joke about it.
I say like, you know, Tesla and like, Rife, like Dr. Rife, they like, you know, made a baby together. And then all of a sudden, in Albert Einstein, they made a baby. And then all of a sudden this little thing comes out. And basically what that is, is that this scans your voice. And this is a, I love the fact that the Europeans are way more ahead in regards to Americans here. The Europeans are, are way in the forefront of this type of technology, especially like Russians and like Swedish people and
They understand frequencies and you can calibrate certain frequencies, change frequencies. But the thing that impressed me the most is that you can scan your voice and your voice, it can capture about 8,000 to 9,000 frequencies that come from just your voice. And one of the most powerful things you can say to the machine is say, I am those words, I am. And so you say, I am Emmanuel. And I say, like, I speak for about eight seconds. And then all of a sudden it records it. And it tells me which emotions
I'm overusing which ones I'm suppressing and how it's affecting my body. And it gives you like a nine to 10 page readout on a PDF. And I just find it very impressive that some emotions you'll be able to resonate with others you won't and it's because they're inherited. And so it can locate inherited emotions and trapped emotions. And it also has an optimized dial so it can basically release them for you. That's a very easy flip of the switch for her. For me, I'm doing the
muscle testing and using a magnet to release it from others. So there's a little bit of a difference, but that frequency device can locate inherited emotions as well.
Tansy Rodgers (22:11.384)
That's fascinating. Are there common codes or energetic patterns that you see all the time on people and that they're just more commonly, they more commonly pop up?
Yeah, everyone's very, very different. What I do find, though, is very, very common is that people do have a thing called the heart wall, which is, you know, according to Brad testing sort of one consciousness, it's like 93 % of people have it. We make kind of a joke about the 7 % because, you know, I remember one time, I think I went to a training and he was on stage and he said something like,
Oh, I did find somebody that had no trapped emotions, like nothing, you know? And we were all just shocked, like, who is this person, you know? And he's like, well, don't get too excited. He has no hair. He has an orange cloak over him, like a kind of a drapery cloak. And he lives in the jungle, you know? And so that person over there, obviously, know, the mother probably really cared for him when he was in the womb, didn't have a lot of stress involved there too.
So the baby wasn't absorbing emotions from the mom, which is possible too. But I doubt that he overlapped inherited stuff unless he has a huge line of monks that go all the way up there. But I just found it very fascinating that most of us who have to live in the matrix, we're going to have to deal with stress and trapped emotions. so I guess a common thing is the heart wall. Whenever your heart feels heavy and Tansy, this has probably happened to you before. Like if your heart feels heavy or it feels like it's going to break.
because someone passed away or relationship contention or stress at work. What they call that is that we're actually one step closer to BHS, which is broken heart syndrome. And the heartstrings or the tendons inside the heart are being stretched while you're experiencing the trauma. And if it rips, then the heart collapses and then now you have died of BHS.
Emanuel Zevollos (24:19.262)
And it's a lot more common than people know, but the body has a defense mechanism where it places a trapped emotion that kind of scoops some of it over your heart wall to protect it from breaking. So the good news is you live another day. The bad news is that you have now a wall around your heart. And there's eight symptoms that it has. I'll run it by you within just 30 seconds. Number one is low immune system, low energy. Number two is lack of clarity of your mission in life.
Maybe you are in a very happy place, but you're like, there's something else out there. feel like, but I don't know. Number three is, or I'll kind of go backwards a little bit, or you love what you do, but you just mentally love it. It's not like kind of confirmed with your heart. You can actually have more happiness and joy and elation if your heart was confirmed with the brain. The third one is when people give you love and affection, you're just like, I see it. I just don't feel it like I used to. The fourth one is
You know how many times this happened to you where you share something with your partner your partner gets mad and you're like I didn't mean it I don't know why you're getting upset and there's this weird weird conversation that happens in your mind You think your partner is having a bad day if your heart is sending mixed messages It's having a bad day. And then the fifth one is Financial abundance. There's nothing more attractive in this life than somebody who knows their mission mind and heart knows how to receive love from others knows how to give love to others
That's when attraction abundance comes in very quickly. And the last thing is it lowers depression, anxiety and triggers. So it's got an eightfold positivity in regards to symptoms, just removing this trauma from the heart.
So when they say that you can die from a broken heart, that is very real.
Emanuel Zevollos (26:05.346)
Yeah, that's a very real statement. even in Egyptian cultures, if you Google, if anyone's listening here, you want to Google someone, Google actually, it's called the weighing of the heart. And it's very fascinating. It shows these gods that are kind of in the veil of the living and the dead. And there's a line of people basically that are being tested to see if their heart weighs lighter than a feather. And if it weighs higher than a feather, then they go to the upstairs room and they go to
you know, become gods or exalted. If it doesn't, then they have to come back and they have to keep working things out. The heart wall is very similar to that. It's like the more trauma you release, it's like your heart starts weighing like a feather. And it almost becomes, and I'll say this, like a child again. know, like you remember when you were a child, like the sky was brighter, the sun was more beautiful, time went slower. Like, what is that? We always want to go back and we think
If I tell adults and I say, hey, you know, don't you want to go back to being a kid again? I can't. And here's the number one reason, because I'm not ignorant like I was when I was a kid. I didn't know what was coming into my life. And that's why that's why my heart is heavy. It's not. It's that back then you had less heart walls back then. And as life happened, you had to put yourself in a bunker to protect yourself. But now that the war is gone, you have your nice house, you have your beautiful wife.
You're still stuck in the bunker. You can't feel like a kid and all the rewards you received during your life. And that's a problem. So I help people get people to where like you don't need that bunker anymore. Like you needed it for a while, but you're actually living a good life now. You should be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor. And so I remove those walls and all of a sudden it's like, you know, I'd be driving even myself and I'll see these little clouds and I'll like start picturing like a teddy bear up there. And I'm like, man, I used to do that when I was like four years old, five years old.
but I'm appreciating the things that I used to appreciate when I was a kid, have that childlike wonder. You can't fake a childlike wonder unless you feel something like a child. And so it's a very powerful work to remove people's heart walls.
Tansy Rodgers (28:15.79)
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Tansy Rodgers (30:14.86)
So Emmanuel, my question for you then is, well, these emotions, we can't turn ourselves off to these emotions and to these influences that come in. So what do we do to keep emotion from getting stuck?
on a daily basis other than getting maybe some routine cleanups as you might want to call it.
So the first thing is I would love to give all your guests a gift if that's okay with you. Tanzi seems like a very gifty person. So I think everyone would appreciate this. So basically what we can do is, again, if you're watching me on video, you will see my hand here. There's two ways you can do this. Usually you would have a magnet that you would kind of rub over your head.
But one thing that's very, powerful that I feel like everyone needs who's listening to this is a shield. Now, because we tend to absorb people's stuff all the time. That quote that came out that says that you become the you become basically the lump sum of the four people you associate with. Somebody was highly inspired by that, but I don't think that person knew how on a deeper level when he said that or she said that because you're actually absorbing your friends' emotion from time to time. So shout out to
hairstylists and nurses that are at a nursing home. Shout out to you. If you're out there and your feet hurt and your body hurts and you can't sleep at night, you're absorbing your patients stuff. You're absorbing your client stuff. So the way that you prevent that is you just take your hand and you just kind of like you're just swiping your head. You're saying I'm now placing a shield that will block all negative energies. It will only allow love and positive energies in.
Emanuel Zevollos (32:04.278)
It's permanent and it covers my whole entire body. So, and then if you muscle test yourself, if you're used to muscle, you probably muscle test, do I have a shield? And it says, yes. Now, if I could, if there's 800 people listening to this or whatever, I would love to go person by person and be like, do you have any holes in your shield? And sometimes certain traumas can kind of create like, almost like you're drilling a hole into the shield. So I can.
your percentage to see how shielded are you. You could be 82 % or whatever. But in the morning time, you want to say the word shields up when you wake up. Now that you have it, now that if you've done what I did, now you have it. You never have to reapply it again. You just have to activate it. And so in the morning time, you just say shields up. Or if you're into prayer and you believe in God, you can just mention shield in your prayer and it will have the same effect. So again, that's typically when I work with someone brand new.
I'm like, yeah, you make a great point, Tanzi. It's like, how do we prevent from creating more of trapped emotions now that we know that we exist? One is for sure, don't absorb stuff from people, you know? And this shield is even strong enough that if you go to Walmart at 1130 at night, you'll be safe, which as you know, we don't know what's gonna happen at Walmart at 1130 at night. You have no idea who you're gonna meet. that's how strong the shield is. I make a joke about that. But also too, so that's one thing. The second thing is,
Don't be a professional emotional stuffer. This is very key that whenever you feel an emotion feel it out, you know But we're taught in society, especially men is to like, you know, get over yourself, you know, like why you crying man? Get over it, you know, so we're we have a lot more in my opinion Change of conscious programming when we feel emotions and women do you know for sure we've we have to man up and the problem is Now we've created we've we've created so many trapped emotions
And now we're almost close to receive energy healing because we've closed off and we're like, so ironic, right? We're closed off to feel our emotions and we're closed off to the emotion code practitioner when we need it the most, you know? And so I think it's good to just kind of feel out your emotions and to let it process through. And you'll know when it's instead of saying, hey, have to let me distract myself and go back to work. It's like, no, just feel the sadness and sit in it until it's gone and then go, OK, I think that's gone.
Emanuel Zevollos (34:30.07)
You can almost picture like a sphere of energy leaving your body.
I'm so glad you highlighted that because yes, there is a huge difference and I see it in my work too. There's a huge difference between men versus women and what they are innately open to allowing to feel, to receive, to come in. the reality is, is the majority of it is conditioning. And I think just spreading that message of it is okay.
to allow yourself to feel. is essential for you to allow yourself to feel for your own health and well-being is such an important message.
Yeah, I agree. I had this for the men listening to this, or if you're a woman and this man is coming to your mind while you're hearing my voice, then send this to them and let them listen to this. Because I did this very powerful meditation once where I got to see in vision men coming to me. And I remember seeing some scales in
On their eyes almost like reptilian scales on their eyes, and I remember asking when I was seeing this I was like what are these scales and what scales are and later on I got the answer was is programming and it's it's all the programming we received whether it's school programming or Religious indoctrination or its government government seeing who we are our grades or schooling and so there's so many different things of like how we've been labeled in different ways
Emanuel Zevollos (36:08.224)
And one of the things that men just want, because after that vision of all the men coming to me, I saw their children come to me too. And I thought it was their kids at first. I'm like, no, this is your inner child coming to me. And what we're afraid of is facing our father trauma, facing the father wound. This is what we're mostly afraid of. In fact, I can bet everything that I have that the way you see your father is the way you see God.
And that is, it's very key that when a healer comes to you, they probably have a father wound too. And that we're not looking to judge, almost picture like a cartoon character with no face expression. We don't, I'm just looking to help. And like, we have a lot more common than you think. Or if a woman tries to heal you with your father wound, it's like, we've already, they probably have a mother wound. And so they're looking at you as equal and non-judgmental.
and we just want to help. And so I implore you, if you are a man and you're listening to this, is that it's not too late to say, you know what, my inner child deserves a chance. And I'm not giving it a chance because I'm afraid I'm gonna get judged again. I'm afraid I'm gonna be criticized again. I'm afraid I'm gonna be programmed again. But like, we know how tired you are and you deserve the healing.
What is the most powerful transformation that you've seen or experienced with what you just talked about?
So one of the things is there is something come someone comes to mind with a younger a younger child that two things there's there's a there's a child that I worked with that was very rebellious was adopt was adopted I didn't know he was adopted at first somehow that information kind of just whatever but I was working with the mom and I remember going like wow there's so many heart walls in the womb this is
Emanuel Zevollos (38:02.594)
Kind of bizarre. It was like kind of a one out of a thousand kind of situation. I was like, wow, there's heart wall after heart wall after heart wall. What is going on with your child? And she's like, she had to remind me this isn't my child. I adopted him and his mother was a meth addict who was being physically abused. And I was like, okay. So he was like born with dozens and dozens of, he was already in a bunker when he was born basically. And he was feeling numb all the time. And this is why he,
even called the CPS on his adopted family because he just felt completely numb. what was interesting is that when she was at church with him and she was rubbing his back, because he kind of like was slumped over, he got mad at her. like, what are you trying to You trying to wake me up? And she was like, no, no, no, it seems like you're really tired. And so I was just rubbing your back. For the first time ever,
She heard him say, I'm sorry, Mom, I didn't mean that. And the reason why he said that is because his heart was soft. In the book of Ezekiel, in the Bible, it talks about how the Creator will make your heart fleshy. And the problem with this world, if you don't like this world and you see what's happening around you, it's because we have a lot of stony hearts ruling our situation.
and they don't feel, so they're taking actions to find ways to feel things. And it's not a good way to run your life, to run for the next breakthrough in feeling something. Because sometimes you feel something with just gaining money, but then downtrodding your brother and sister. Money over people. And so the goal is to get your heart to be fleshy. I'll share this one thing too.
with this other gentleman that I work with, had a son who was sort of wayward. And I remember I removed a lot of what they call idea allergies. Idea allergies are like basically the foundation for triggers. So whenever you're triggered, there's two things happening and it could be either or. It could be your inner child having a tantrum, that's one. And your adult self exudes it as getting triggered.
Emanuel Zevollos (40:20.55)
Or it could be you have an idea allergy that's either yours or it's inherited from your great-great-great-grandfather. Something that he would be very annoyed with and has lot of trauma with, or you made it your own. So what's really funny is the wife was concerned one time because she's like, I don't know what you did to my husband. I'm very concerned. He does not yell at my son anymore who's the wayward son. And I just remember going like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. This is actually good news because the son doesn't need any more yelling.
He said, no, no, but you don't understand. Like my husband doesn't care about him anymore. He doesn't yell at him anymore. And I said, but is he still talking to him? He said, yeah, no, he talks all the time. He's just not mad. He doesn't care about my son as much as I do. I'm like, your husband needs to be in a place where he can talk to his son, not yell at his son. And we've got him there. You should be happy. And then she finally dawned on her. I was like, wait, you're right. I get it. And so it's just funny. Like I removed a nut. And I remember finding 10 to 15 ID allergies.
that were affecting his relationship with his son. And as soon as they were gone, all of a sudden you had the real dad come back, where it's just a dad who's concerned, but not willing to yell anymore and create more trauma in the wayward son.
that's fascinating. All right, so let's just stick on this a little bit longer. For those men out there that are listening to this and they're saying, yes, I agree, but I don't even know what to do. Or for the women out there that know maybe a man in their life that are feeling or maybe feeling the same way, what are maybe one to two pieces of advice
to those men out there that are just feeling stuck and needing to understand how to move forward.
Emanuel Zevollos (42:03.094)
Great question. I would start off with
with how we communicate with the man. Let me use the example of a woman who, the reason why I want to bring up this example because this is common with me, okay, is that 80 % of my clients are women. So this already shows that if we're listening to a podcast, there's gonna be a lot of women who hear this and go, how do I get my man to be open to engage with a practitioner? This is their greatest battle that they're gonna have.
Here's what's beautiful is there's a mantra that I have with my old practice, it was called coding alternative in the past, but now it's called compass healing. But I would say this mantra, which is less talk, more healing, which is the greatest words that ever saluted a man's ears is less talk, more healing, because they don't wanna talk. And reality is, not to make fun of my marriage therapist friends, but when you go to a therapist, marriage therapist, and if you're listening, you're like, I've been to one, tell me that that...
that ride home wasn't the most toxic ride you've ever experienced. And they will always say yes. So what is it? What's happening is that this therapist who had the greatest goodwill to help you, unfortunately, literally woke up idea allergy after idea allergy on both ends. And then there was no release. It was like a popcorn. You just popped everything in them and they said, okay, go home. And now you have burned kernels.
inside this car and they're just ripping at each other to shreds. What should be happening, and this is the future, is there should be a room for a therapist and there should be a room for a practitioner. As soon as you are gone from your session, you should go to a practitioner. The practitioner can do a very powerful session called, What energies have come up during the last hour when you're meeting your therapist and let's release all of them. That car ride would be so, so different.
Emanuel Zevollos (44:03.158)
So I have to give it to men that men are traumatized from that experience and they'll never go back. They'll never go back. They'll be like, this didn't work for me. Therapy doesn't work for me. And they're kind of right in some ways. But what they need is they only got half the gift. They should have got the practitioner to assist, to be the cherry on the top. so again, so therapy can work, but combine it with an energy healer and it's game over. It's go time.
But what I wanted to share with the woman is that the man doesn't, the man's biggest thing is we have pain, okay? Men have physical pain and we shove that pain down physically, because the women doesn't want to hear about it. You know, the woman's like, I told you to go to the doctor, you know, I don't want to go to the doctor, you know, it's a very tough conversation. So I love when I work with a man is to like locate the physical pain that he's dealing with.
and tell him that there's emotional trauma that's driving it. Once I do that connection, the man's heart is open to the practitioner because that annoying Achilles tendon pain that they've had for 20 years, can you imagine the relief that if they feel it in 15 minutes with someone long distance, the trust level increases, I'll just tell you that. And then we're like best friends and we're just like giving high fives over Zoom. So that's kind of my first route is like, where is your pain for your husband?
physical. Let's go there first and let's relieve him of it. That'll increase the trust. Then if they like the session, but maybe they don't want to talk anything anymore and the wife knows all the symptoms of the man, he can give me forever permission and then I never have to, I can do what they call email sessions with him. So I've had two men that had very serious
you know, cancer, one pancreatic, one stage four kidney, and I've never talked to them on the phone. I've only done email sessions. So this is a way for them to keep healing with the wife so that they can kind of switch back and forth. And the husband is still catching up with the wife without him having to be physically present on the phone with me. So that's one beautiful option for men is like, do you want to be on the phone and just quickly talk about one sentence trauma here and there and not really expound on it and just have more healing?
Emanuel Zevollos (46:27.754)
or do you want someone to do it for you, you just receive an email and then receive an audio and you got the same exact results if you met with me in person. It's up to the man.
Wow. Well, thank you for giving the men a little bit of love here because we don't always get to dive into just really how to nurture them. And I think right now, especially right now, it is so important that we all come together and allow men to start taking the masks off so they can really do the deep healing that is imperative for them to be doing right now.
Yeah, and I think I always kind of I always tell women as a joke like a woman friend I'll just say, you know, if the world were to end, you know, I would want a bunch of healed women to like bring this world back to where it's supposed to be, you know, but I've changed my my vernacular in conversation since then. It's we can't do it without the men healing, too. So I believe men and women are very, very sacred unit.
very sacred unit and the things on the other side that we can't see like entities and dark energies that are there too, they want to break that sacred unit with anything they can. So I like to also tell men that you know when you have really dark days, you're probably not in your room by yourself. There's probably something attached to you that's affecting you and that if you remove it, you'll notice so much more peace of mind. But why are they attacking you? And the answer is very simple.
you're moving forward in life, progressing, but also you honor the sacred relationship too. And they can't have one over there, so they have to destroy yours. that also wakes up the man that will go, okay, I'm in spiritual warfare. It's not just emotions. So it's kind of not sad, but it's just a reality we have to just take in that we're not only dealing with emotional warfare, but also spiritual attacks are very, very real.
Emanuel Zevollos (48:30.228)
And sometimes I'm with my wife and I'm like, honey, I was with six clients today. And let's just say like, I might as well have worn like a priest cuff. I was, you there was some heavy stuff going on here and she's like, wow, that's, that's crazy. And, yeah, the relief that they get from it, knowing that they knew that that's not who they really are, that the way they behave with their wife the other day wasn't them is very like,
It's a great mention for them so they go like, okay, I knew that wasn't me. I felt out of sorts. I felt like something took over me. Yeah, something took over you for sure. So it's great to kind of open up people's minds to that, especially men.
And so I want to get into that whole conversation in a moment because that's huge. It's huge and it's not talked about enough. I want to get into the dark stuff. But before we go there, let's actually just kind of prime that because I want to first off, when you were telling the story about the boy, the very first transformation story you were telling about the boy, I had a whole deja vu moment. I was like, what timeline?
Did I just jump? Because there was something going on there. I was like, I swear I've heard this before and I've only just met you. so that got me really thinking. When it comes to timeline jumping, when it comes to this dimensional healing, you've talked a lot about the healing your life. How do you view time? How do you view identity in your work?
And is it really possible to timeline jump and shift your realities so that you can change your entire trajectory of your life just through this healing process?
Emanuel Zevollos (50:17.59)
When it comes to timelines, it's funny because you never hear about those things unless you're watching like a Marvel movie or a DC movie. They talk about different dimensions and everything like that. Or if you watch the show Lost, know, which was a very popular show. But I like to keep it very simple, like, know, because sometimes when it comes to these type of topics, it's like we want to be very careful that it's like, what can I do? Like, what can I do to really
heal this like it sounds great, but how do I you heal from this the best way could look at it is this is first of all, i'm a very big believer in having multiple lives like you know, so so that's That's just it's not a theory for me. It may be a skepticism thing for you who's listening, but when you've witnessed clients go back into different lives And that's why they're they're repeating the same theme in this life or when you've personally like myself engaged in that
You kind of can't go back to like, this is just me and this is my identity. So it's very, very key that if there are things that here's something that maybe may help out your listeners. If there is something in your life that's a consistent theme that you keep seeing over and over again and you have no idea where it comes from, because if you look back in your current history, nothing really matches that theme. So like, let's say it's like constantly getting abandoned by people or
people don't listen to you all the time. Or when you win something, you lose something. When you win something, you lose something. Or when you're with a partner, you have lots of fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. What are those themes all about really? I kid you not, if you went maybe six lifetimes ago, it will fully clarify to you what happened back there, you are still dealing with it now, and this is the life to overcome it. And so we're constantly seeking for growth and
Whenever you do a motion code body code session, one of the things that's kind of exciting to do, there's a really great book called The Map of Consciousness by Dr. David Hawkins. that book for me is in my top five books of all time, for sure. And I think it's called Map of Consciousness Explained or something like that, or Understand the Map of Consciousness, one of those. But anyway, the point is that when you get into that, you can muscle test yourself
Emanuel Zevollos (52:44.204)
where you are on the scale on this map from zero to a thousand. Now, 700 to a thousand are like enlightened people like Buddha and Jesus and they kind of stay on the higher range. But the average world frequency we're at 200, know, we're kind of bouncing between courage and pride, you know, the lower frequency people who are very sick, fibromyalgia, cancer disease, there's a lot of guilt and shame going on there on the lower end, you know, and it's interesting. You can muscle test someone during the day.
And they might be, they might be, there might be an average of where they typically are on the map. Whenever you do an energy healing session, you usually elevate on the map. So let's say you started like a 234 and then you finish your energy healing session. I challenge you to muscle test yourself and where you're at, you're probably at 432 now. You're like, okay, cool. I'm higher. And if you look at the map, if you go on Google, just look up map of consciousness, Dr. David Hawkins, there is a chart that kind of goes left to the right. And what I'm in,
Basically, it shows you the emotion that you typically associate yourself with. There's the way you view God, the way you view life, the way you receive information. It's all kind of written out. It's almost like it knows you a little too well. And so you're like, wow, that's that's pretty much me. And and so the goal is like in some way or another, when you do that, you're changing timelines because maybe most of your life you've been in the hundreds. And this is, you you stayed down there.
But now because you do yoga, you do breath work, you go to church or you read the good book or whatever, you're constantly bouncing to higher frequencies on the map. And when you do that, you're kind of, you're filtering life very differently than the way you used to filter before. That's why when you read a good book and you read it over and over again, the book hasn't changed, you've changed. And that's why the book looks differently to you. And so that's one thing. So that's kind of in a way changing timelines, you know?
Another way is when you're done with a session and you do certain healings, know, with God and higher beings, time is very different for them, you know? Sometimes they can even see time just your whole entire life all in a timeline already, you know? And there's predictive points of like how you would act during certain situations because you've done it before. The past tends to repeat itself, you know?
Emanuel Zevollos (55:07.298)
But when you do remove certain things, let's say that the gentleman that I worked with who I removed all the idea allergies, you know, now he doesn't yell at his son anymore, you know, that son technically is on a new timeline because if the dad would have kept doing that over and over again, he would have ended up who knows in 10 years. But if the if the dad kept on being angry, just in general, who knows where he would have ended up in 10 years. So he's he's kind of jumping already because you've changed the way you perceive things, the way you act towards something.
And so the goal is to collapse that kind of collapses where he was going to go due to the fact of how he is or who he is. And then it opens up new doors because of who he is now. So that's that just happens just getting an energy healing session done. Or if you do a regression hypnotherapy with me by by closing some contracts or oaths or vows of things that you maybe didn't settle the score in another life, you've opened up new timelines now in this life because
you can learn the lesson in the regression so that you don't have to learn it in real life.
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use code TANZ15 and try out everything they got. Let's get your guts set up to really win the day. Which can be monumental because I've gotten regression sessions done and there were so many themes that came back and like, that's why this is happening. That's, that makes a lot of sense. I think the most incredible reoccurring theme for me through many regressions that I've gotten is
that fear of stepping outside of the box in whatever, whatever in each of those lifetimes, whatever healing capacity I was trying to bring forward. In one life, it was I was an alchemist. In another one, I was doing holistic health work. In another one, I was using herbs and spells and that kind of stuff. And it was just so fascinating that
That theme was running so much that when I became aware of it, I was like, okay, I see why I'm being held back to talk about this or to do this energy work or whatever it is. And it helped to shift me and give me almost permission to step forward and say that was the old version. And I will tell you what, Emanuel, as soon as I started to do that, all of these old versions, I use air quotes here, old versions,
of myself that were no longer supposed to be in this lifetime started to fall away. Yeah, it hurt at the time. It was scary. It was frustrating. And I didn't know what was going on until I'm now where I'm at now and can look back and say, thank goodness that is gone because that wasn't meant to come along with me. Literally, that was my timeline jumping. It's fascinating when you go through it.
Emanuel Zevollos (59:33.75)
Yeah, it's, I love telling people that we've died multiple times before and we had some form of mission involved. And what's kind of comforting to the person is that you weren't doing it alone. How cool is that? Let me just think about, just ponder about this, is that we've never, we don't have the, we can't have that audacious thought that we're ever alone.
Not only because the creator is behind it all but because there's these guides there's these angels there's these family members that you know, like what they call soul families that keep reuniting with you and you guys have huddled Many many times huddled together and said, okay who are you gonna play this time? Are you gonna play the mother? Cool. I'm gonna play the daughter. What lesson are you learning this time? you're learning that. Okay, cool i'm gonna learn this How are you gonna teach me that when I become your kid? Okay, great. Like that is the most mind-freeing
doctrine out there to know that you planned your map you you're part of the map making and that you're not a victim of your map the the reason why depression gets even deeper is because you feel like number one you're by yourself experiencing it and and number two it's that you didn't plant it isn't part of your journey you know that that's it's almost like i took a detour i don't know how to get back no no your detour is the journey that you were supposed to go there first but
I love it like, you when I take people back to the womb, you know, and sometimes I just do a private session of this called womb regression. I don't go to other lives, just a womb regression itself. I love asking them the same question is why are you here? And that baby knows to the T what it is. And it's not 10 sentences. It's not a thousand sentences. It's not a career. It's like, this is the life where I learned to forgive or this is the life where I learned how to embrace different cultures.
or this is the life where I learned how to empathize more with women, you know? And that's it. And your whole goal is just to like master that here. And you have people that are on the other side cheering you on. they must have known, because usually when I'm doing a regression session, I let the guide talk to the client and the guide has an attitude of their own. So I don't.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:01:59.02)
I want to get out of the way and just be like, I'm just taking notes over here. And the guide will just be like, yeah, did you fulfill what you said you're going to fulfill? And if they ask that question, that means the guide's been there from day one. So that's pretty darn comforting, you know, to know that that guide, the only reason why he can ask that question or she can ask that question or it can ask that question is because they've been there since you were born and even in the womb. And that's a beautiful, beautiful, reassuring thing for someone who's on a healing journey right now.
is you're never alone. have a creator that loves you unconditionally and you have people that are cheering you on on the other side. And if you can start tapping into those, even then life could get more exciting.
I just got chills. love that. And you know, the one thing too that I think is just so wild is it's easy to get down and out in some of these experiences, these obstacles that we experience as a human being. Right. But when you step back and take a moment and say, you know what, I might actually be playing a role for somebody else's soul to expand and to grow. That is amazing.
And it might be vital for me to be able to do this, to live and experience this for that other person's benefit.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, we tend to get too into character. like, and that's, and that's, just makes a lot of sense. You know, it's all, it's almost like, it's almost like someone needs to step into a room and just be like, how's your costume going for you? You know? And then you're just like, what costume? It's like, yeah, your human suit, your human suit and everything that you're dealing with right now. you know, this was in your costume closet.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:03:47.982)
And your higher self is probably hanging out somewhere else. And you're kind of just a projection of that higher self. It's like, what a great wake up call. Because again, it almost makes like life is just a game. And that's kind of why why us humans have a naturalistic way of of appreciating games. We like love games, like, you know, competition and whatever, blah, blah, blah. There's a reason why our DNA is kind of made that way is because we're in a game.
Like this is a game, and we love to grow. We love to grow. We love to progress. It's just what we do as intelligences that are in human bodies. so whenever you're having a tough time, and sometimes go like, okay, like this is kind of scary, blah, blah. Wait, this is like a game. I'm like the main character. I gotta go make this happen. It kind of shifts your focus on being like, life is happening to me. It's like, it's not, you know? And so you are the main character. You brought yourself here.
Like have fun with it. Have fun with it. Don't don't take life too seriously. But again, obviously that's why energy healing helps if you remove these things that make you reactive. The likelihood of you having more fun during stressful times is way higher than you being reactive during those moments.
Yeah. And I will even say from my own personal experience, I think it gives me more courage when I can step back and say, I'm the main character of this movie. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. So let's shift it a little bit to something you already brought up. And I guess it's not really a shift. It's kind of an add on. Let's talk about the dark stuff because when we start to do some of the deeper work, when we start to work in some of these energies, when we open ourselves up,
There can be some offensive energies, some portals, some spiritual interference that comes in that can also then halt or put a barrier up for our soul to be able to do the work that we were just talking about and also of course to heal. So let's talk about that. What are people really picking up on when their energy feels hijacked?
Emanuel Zevollos (01:05:59.724)
That's a great question. When it comes to offensive energies and evil spirits, we do have to know that like, and people can take this as a grain of salt, okay? So I'm going to share something that's in my personal faith, you know? And some people ask me what I am. I come from the LDS church, but it's interesting. We have a very unique doctrine about this, which kind of coincides with the body code.
What I love about this energy healing work is that you don't have to be any type of religion or faith or pigment color to accept this type of work. If it's real energy work, which comes from the creator, it has no judgment. It's all about just assisting humanity moving forward. And one of the things that's kind of comforting to know, to let everyone know here, is that you are one of the stalwart ones. And what I mean by that is that we had a war in heaven, which is in the book of Revelations in...
But in the cosmology of what I believe in is that one third of the children of God came down to earth and they were not following the good one. So they followed the other one, the adversary, you know, call him adversary, Lucifer, whatever. But one third of them came down here. So the question is, what are these one third doing here? Are they just sitting at McDonald's hanging out at the play place? What are they doing? And the answer is, is that they're doing the same thing they did before you came here, which is to create war against humankind.
And you were part of that war and you passed the test and that's why you're here. You were kind of, you were cheering the good plan. You were cheering the creator plan. And you said, I want to come down here to progress to be like my creator, you know, which is also called theosis. You did that. And so, but the one third, they were like, no, we don't care for having a body. We don't care for having a family. We are following a different plan. And so that's why they hate your body and they hate the family and they hate.
anything where you're moving closer to your plan. And so these entities could be either, they're usually, again, they'll never have a body, but they're these entities that can attach to you. Now, here's what's really interesting is that if you're moving in your healing process, if you have these symptoms, and I'll name a few here, I'm gonna actually use the body code to kind of be very clear about this in this scene, because I know someone's listening about this one section right now.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:08:22.433)
It says, want to know if I have any of the symptoms of the entity and I'm glad you're still here. I'm so glad that you're open minded. So here's what it is. Fatigue, physical discomfort, negative and mood issues, addiction, feeling like something is there that doesn't belong, feeling stuck, feeling conflict or resistance coming from the outside, self-sabotage, anger itself, self-doubt.
mental illness symptoms and nightmares. So these are all symptoms of an entity being attached to you. And what I found out is when I work with someone back in the New Testament days, it was just like, hey, you get out of this person's body, and then they would swarm to a bunch of pigs and the pigs would all drown themselves. That's one way to do them. Another way to do it is when you muscle test, let's say I'm working on someone with depression and I find like, hey,
you actually have some attachments on you. The goal is to number one is to find out how many entities are attached to you. There could be one or two or there could be what in the scripture says a lesion. It could be like 12 or more that are attached to you or even more. Then sometimes I like to ask, know, are you, is there any hidden ones? And there's even a more modern term now. Are there any cloaked ones? So if you don't mention these two terms hidden or cloaked,
you'll miss them and they purposely kind of like, it's kind of their version of fail safe. They're trying to like hide behind you. And so you can't, you can't see them even for the practitioner. Cause they know that they know that you're coming for them. So what's interesting is so you have that and usually I like to ask what attracted them in the first place. So there's these very common energies that attract them. And if anyone's taking notes, these are, it's just good to know, you know, this is just good because this this is body reference and your subconscious will ring with truth when you hear this.
There's these energies called no will tos, no will to dot dot dot, or there's will to energies, dot dot dot. A very common one, the most common one is no will to live. It's a very common one. Now that may sound very drastic like suicide ideation stuff, but what it really means is just very overwhelmed and you need to time out. But that energy alone can cause depression. And there's a term that says that energies beget the same energies. So if you have a no will,
Emanuel Zevollos (01:10:45.55)
Energy when you're nine there's a high likelihood that you'll have it at 15 You'll make a new one you make a new one at 18 a new one at 24 It'll kind of like you'll have a bunch of them now and they're kind of like sirens. They're like free You know and an entity is like Hark There's someone that is overwhelmed with life multiple times If I can tap into them I can push them off the cliff and they can unalive themselves. That's real That's a that's the real mo the real mo
is that you are not here anymore. They even had that good movie that came out recently. I'm trying to remember what it was called. I don't know if you saw it, Tanzee, the one about near-death experience movie that came out. It was made by the creators of The Chosen. I'm trying remember what it was called. I think it's called After Death. think it's called After Death. That movie is so incredible. I highly recommend that movie. Go watch it. Get your popcorn out.
Probably not.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:11:44.888)
But there's a scene where this kid takes his life and the scariest thing that he saw was that he wasn't alone. And I even call it, it was an operation. was an entity operation. It was almost like an entity mob. They have their own mobocracy of entities that attach to you. And the more that came, the heavier all those symptoms that I just mentioned are.
And how shocking would that be? You take your life and the first thing you see are seven entities staring at you. You're just like, wait, who are you guys? I'm telling you that happens more frequently than we will ever know, especially in, there's a lot of them in mental institutes, which make them even worse, you know? so the thing is you find these things like will to, there's another common will to, which is called will to die. Now that one is more of.
too much self-inflicted abuse in your mind and you need a timeout. So there's a little difference between no will to live and will to die. Will to die also does cause suicide ideation thoughts. So these energies you start accumulating over time, all of a sudden the sirens are too loud and then this entity would be walking by your house and go, wait, hey guys. And the reason why they say wait, they are attracted to that because your potential,
that they can push you out of the matrix, number one. But number two is there could be spirit bodies that lived here before that are in spirit prison that hang out with them. And they might have some no will to live energies in their life. the like attracts like, and they're attracted to your energy because they're like, wait, I had that when I was 14. I had that when I was 23. Let me connect with this person. And they connect with you because of that. And then now you have that, that a person who was living on earth now attached to you.
because they haven't gone to the light yet. They're kind of still in this kind of prison mode. And so it's good to kind of get rid of those. So I get rid of those first when I'm doing that procedure. Then I get rid of the entity, the name of the creator. And then I ask, what did they leave in you while you were attached to them? They're not just sitting there. I almost look at them like widows, like spider widows. Like they leave little eggs in your mind.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:14:06.07)
And these could be a couple of things, could be chords. They're corded to you so they can find a quick way back to you. There could be post-aponotic suggestions, which is like hypnotized statements that they whisper to you at nighttime. And Tansy, it was your idea for me to open this door up, okay? So I'm just gonna...
I love this. I love this. Yes.
So, because you're looking at me and I was like, no, like have I gone off the road?
No, I'm looking at you because I've actually had a practitioner help me with experiences. And so a lot of this actually relates to me. So go on.
So the the so again post-hypnotic suggestions which are hypnotized statements typically they can come from listening to music over and over again you know I'm a big Nirvana fan back in the day you know track six album of in utero says you know I think I'm dumb and he says it quite a few times so if you love that song too much there's a high likelihood that you have a post-hypnotic suggestion of I think I'm dumb and so the thing is so you gotta be careful what you listen to what you watch
Emanuel Zevollos (01:15:09.71)
because it becomes hypnotized because you're in a theta state. Many times in the day, we're in theta state. Whenever you're in that state, be careful what you watch, be careful what you read, be careful what you listen to. But entities also leave thoughts in our heads too. And they go, if I can put this thought in their head. And what they do is, I'm gonna use an Enochian word here. I love the book of Enoch, but the Enochian word is, he calls them the watchers. But I call these entities too that,
In the good book, it doesn't say they could ever enter into your head and kind of hear your thoughts, you know, like if you pray in quiet, they don't know what you're saying in there, you know, it's interesting, but but they don't have to you know, why they've been here for thousands of years. They know our actions and they can look at us and look at our behavior and say, look, she doesn't get enough attention from him. Okay, what can we put in her mind to make this relationship harder? Okay, I'll never be loved. Yeah, let's put that in her mind.
So then she gets that suggestion and then she starts sabotaging the relationship and it gets harder and harder to attract what? More energies to attract what? More entities and then attract what? More depression. So that's their MO. So I'm very familiar with their MO and so I make sure that I do clean my client out and be like, what attracted them? Let's get rid of them. And then what do they leave inside you? And then get rid of those.
And so what can somebody do to protect themselves so that they are less likely to be, for lack of better words, heard by these entities?
I highly recommend, and this is bringing back to my wife's equipment that she uses. So one of the things is, I told you about that scanner that scans your voice, but what it does is, remember how I told you, it tells you which emotions you overuse and which ones you suppress. And so there's a chart that comes with it, like she'll send you like an email and in there it says like, maybe it'll say like self-critical versus self-love, you know?
Emanuel Zevollos (01:17:10.286)
So what it's saying is that you tend to lean towards the self-critical, you know? But what it does is, and you go on YouTube, and bless the people that do this, they do a lot of binaural beats that are on YouTube. However, they are not custom fit to the listener. The device she uses, using your 8,000 to 9,000 frequencies that are scanned, it's able to give you a custom made binaural beat meditation that typically, you you can listen to for 10, 15 minutes.
and it balances your brain and it brings you back into what you want to be in is emotional homeostasis. So whenever you're having like a really rough time, you should do your inner voice, listen to your earbuds and have it basically balance you out. And so this is key to not create a no will to or a will to energy. Also, when you wake up in the morning, this is the best time for suggestion. Listen to your binaural beats right before you go to bed. Also very high suggestion.
best time to go listen to your beats. So that kind of keeps them at bay because it's kind of like you're not creating these heavy energies of no will to live and will to die that are just, and ironically too, there's an energy called no will to go on, and a lot of these will to's cause leg issues, isn't that kind of funny? The reason why is because your body doesn't want to go on anymore. So if you see people who always like, my legs hurt and my knees hurt, you know?
Yes, it could be a dendrinal issue. Yes, it could be a gallbladder issue, which affects the right knee. You know, it could be, but most likely they have a lot of no will to energies and it's almost like their body's giving out. Their lower legs and knees and feet are starting to kind of drag and it's because these energies are starting to accumulate. So it's kind of interesting.
I, you know, kind of wrapping up this part of the conversation, I want to just touch a little bit on portals yet, because portals exist. We also open and close portals. You know, when I was smiling, when you made that comment about me, you know, staring at you. Yeah. It's because practitioner, had seen a couple things, but, and had taken care of them. But she also found, which I got told twice about, she got, she found a portal within my home.
Tansy Rodgers (01:19:28.502)
And I said to her at one point, this was pre her finding this. Okay. I said to her, actually, I'm sorry. No, it was after she had told me cause she didn't, she had no clue about this. I said, I've never in my life felt alone in my house. Like never. always, mean, I'm very connected in regardless, but I never really felt alone. I always felt like there was something watching me.
And she's like, it was probably because of the portal. And so my question to you is, how can these portals, how can we intentionally, spiritually close them back down if we do open them back up? Where do they come from? How do they get opened up? Like, let's just talk a little bit about that so we can be more in touch, because you need to make sure you can open it with great intention, but you also need to make sure you close it back down.
Yeah, I'm more, I would say I'm more attuned to closing portals or just blessing portals. And what I mean by that is that portals can be in walls and they could be in different areas on mirrors and different things like that. They could also be on your body, which is kind of interesting, you know, that's easier access. In fact, there's a really great book. If anybody wants to read a really good, like short 80 page book, and that's so touching. It's about a guy who
you know died for 20 minutes and then he writes about it and but it talks about how when he went to the bar there were these people who were drinking alcohol and addictive spirits tend to create portals on a person's body so that they can easily feel like they're receiving their addiction again that they used to feel when they were here on earth and so portals on the body are very kind of annoying because it's like
You're like, I'll move to a new home where there's no portals. it's like the portal on your back is laughing all the way to the new house. So the thing is that you can actually muscle test if there is a portal inside a room or a home. And if you're really kind of cool, use a dowsing rod. If you found a dowsing rod, can definitely see, there any, show me a yes. And it goes clink, clink, clink to the front. And it goes no, and then it opens up wide. Okay, so are there any...
Emanuel Zevollos (01:21:49.976)
portals in the house. And then if it moves forward to the yes, then what's kind of interesting is you can walk in and use them more as guiding instruments. And so if you Google, know, dowsing rods, you'll know what I'm talking about. If you YouTube dowsing rods, it's interesting. So you could say, where is it? And it kind of becomes a sort of a GPS system kind of where it is. And as soon as you find it, boom, it'll start crossing. You're like, okay, it's on this window right here, you know?
And then basically your goal is just to say, you know, in the name of the creator, just like I command you to close, you know, or you can say, I'm or in the name of the creator, I'm sending this portal to the light, you know, and then ask, ask your dowsing machine, do you have this portal here anymore? And then if it opens up wide, means no. Okay, cool. We closed it, but yeah, it does give easy access. when I'm working with someone who deals with a lot of, entity issues, I do check their house for portals. Ironically.
most practitioners only check for negative ones, I check for both. So I check for negative because you have to understand one of the greatest symbols that is on the planet right now is the yin yang symbol. So you have to understand that you know like when the devil moves the queen so does God too. So with portals the same thing you might find a negative one, two negative ones, but you might find a positive one and that one you just kind of want to bless and just like send it light. That's where your archangels and angels show up at. So they come to the rescue to help you out. You're not the only one
of dealing with house issues there. They come in if there's some intrusion as well. And so we leave that one open. So I'm very careful when I find three and two of them are negative, one of them is positive, I only close the two negative ones and I bless the positive one. But watch this, when you go into a home, you've, if you've, if maybe you're the third resident there, here's what's fascinating is these portals on the houses may not be
Conducive to the fact that you're there. They could have been from the other owners of the home and And one of the major reasons why these portals came in the first place is due to the energies that were absorbed by the home So I've helped people like, know, when you walk into a home, you can feel certain energies, but I I am Very positive that it's not just the portal count in the house. It's more of the emotions that bled into the walls. So I'll
Emanuel Zevollos (01:24:12.032)
Work on someone's house and i'll be like what what energies are in the walls in the house, you know I mean there's so many cool things with like i've heard stories of people using the body code. They'll work on a tree They'll release emotions from a tree and the tree outgrows Every tree in the whole entire block like and it wasn't growing any fruit. No nothing all of a sudden It's just boom, you know, and and that's a real thing everything that's around us is experiencing for some form of emotions even your little
fish spinning around looking at you right now. But what's interesting is that people don't know this, that when you go into a home, you, whenever there's anger and you know, someone's feeling anger, that anger may be absorbed and left someone's body, right? Because we talked about this trapped emotions can leave the sphere. So that in that case, it did not become a trapped emotion, but the house trapped the emotion. And when you have enough emotions on these walls, that also is a siren.
for entities to leave portals. They'll be like, that's a broken home. If we can go over there now, there's, know, but the problem is, this is the sad part is what if, I don't know, I'm gonna share a very weird way to explain it. What if the builders of the home were the most worst people ever you ever met and they're the ones that implanted the emotions there. The portals were really meant for them. They leave the house, they're done making the house. You're the one that lives in it and you have to reap.
Unfortunately, the walls the effect of the walls so that could very very much happen I'll even share this one short 30 second thing too is Night terrors, would say 99.9999 percent night terrors for babies Typically are entity related And but even to kind of scare it not scare people more but just kind of enlighten people more is that it's usually The mother who feels very overwhelmed and it's like I can't handle this anymore. Guess what? She's
exuding from her skin no will to live or will to die and it leaves her body and then it goes into the baby and then the entities say we have a no will to live will to die they should have gone to the mom they end up going to the baby because that's the energy that resonates with them and that baby for some reason starts having night terrors so i've noticed that pretty much 99 percent of the time that's the issue so again kind of proof that that not only babies absorb but walls absorb
Emanuel Zevollos (01:26:38.69)
and then that kind of creates the instigation to create portals there.
Yeah, and we live in an energetic world. Everything is energy and it's exchanging all the time. And I think the biggest thing to really emphasize here, we talked about things that may have been a little more dark, a little bit more fear potential inducing, but that's not the purpose of this. This is really the purpose is about enlightening, understanding, inspiration, knowing that there is, that there could be.
reasons outside of what your human brain is used to understanding and why you're feeling the way that you're feeling. This is not to produce fear. I just want to emphasize that.
Yes, I'm so glad you're saying this. No, this is none of this should give you any fear because I actually gave you a solution to it. So the so again, you could be a Hindu person in the middle of India listening to this and you I feel like we all have the same creator. We just call it different names. You can get a dowsing rod or learn how to muscle test today and you can just be like, you know what? I always did feel weird about my aunt's room. You know, there's a reason why your intuition was doing that.
You can muscle test it, douse it, and then just go into that room and just say, if you're terrible at it? What if you're terrible at it? Like, I don't know how to douse, I don't know how to muscle test, but you've always felt weird in a room. You have all the right to walk into that room and say the name of the creator, whatever portal is in here, go to the light. And you will feel different in that room. And then you solved it. And you helped out that family. So yeah, if I gave you no tools to go out there and fix it, then this is a dark episode, I would say.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:28:16.142)
Yeah, you're very right. This is a this is actually informative and it's to give you hope it's to make you not sound crazy and Make you not question your intuition a lot of your listeners if they're listening to you for a while They probably have really high intuition and they knew something was wrong But they just didn't know how to put the finger on it and now we're putting something tangible there to be like I knew it I've always thought that but I just wanted to hear it from someone's voice and so we just gave them confirmation for it. Yeah
Yeah, 100%. Well, you know, as we finish up this conversation, let's just put a little rainbow on top. Let's put a little rainbow on top, Emmanuel, of this potential dark conversation that we just had. If somebody is feeling stuck right now and they think that there's something a little deeper on play, where would you tell them to begin? What's the first step for them?
So the first step is number one is to realize that you are a spirit having a human experience and find spirituality. I don't care what religion, I don't care what, because even at the end of the day, if you do a lot of energy healing, it's great, it really helps out, but your spirit is starving to connect with the creator. there's just a lot of avenues on how to do it.
I took my journey when I was age 26 and I had to break my mold from my old faith that I used to have as a Catholic and I went on a spiritual journey. I went to the library, I fasted, I was so close to become a Franciscan and live in a monastery and take an oath of poverty, you know, it's like, but that journey is so beautiful and I don't care what religion you are, whenever someone's like, I'm a spiritual sojourner and I'm having a human experience, I cheer on that person.
and they're one step closer to know deeper things about themselves. So if you're in a stuck time, think about it. This is the usual thing is that maybe spirituality has been put in the back burner and you've kind of played your cards in an earthly material world and you're not happy. It's like there's a reason for that. It's because your spirit is anorexic at this point and you need to feed it. So that'd be number one is go on a spiritual journey no matter what that looks like.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:30:29.686)
and listen to the intuition inside of you, don't always listen to what comes out of people's lips. You know, it's okay to listen to people's lips, but then always ask, does this sound right? Does this sound true? And you have this little GPS, some people call it, I call it the light of Christ that everyone has, I don't care who you are, but you have that. So so lock in with that more. That voice should be louder than anybody else's voice. Number two is,
Find a modality that resonates with you and there's you Reiki healing there's theta healing. There's emotion code. There's regression hypnotherapy Whatever resonates with you. I would recommend in my opinion a little bias So I'm sorry, but I would recommend the emotion code by dr Bradley Nelson forwarded by Tony Robbins the more new edition one because he added some clinical trials in there with like people with PTSD So I would recommend the emotion code and then he just wrote the body code
And then the heart code is coming out this December, you know, so he's not stopping. He's a visionary. He's still alive. And he told me one thing that was very, powerful. And I want to kind of share what's the end game is that, especially for people that might be either Christian or kind of very stuck in their beliefs, the goal is for us to open up our hearts. this is to look like if I were to say, what is your mission in life? Kind of overarching kind of thing.
It's to become a being that knows how to receive love and give love to become a loving being on all on all sorts in all levels is just to be a loving being right. That's sort of the overarching thing. But you have your own independent mission that you received in the that you have in the womb there that you should probably get in touch with. But the overarching is that if a faith does helps you become that if an energy healing modality is helping you with that then keep doing that. And
And I think what's really beautiful is when I met the, it's always interesting to meet the founder of a modality to kind of see where their head's at. And I always say this to you, it's amazing what conversations can happen when you eat sushi. You know, just like when you eat sushi and you're talking to a visionary, you don't know what's gonna come out in that dinner time. But I asked him a very beautiful question and I think everyone will appreciate the answer that this person who keeps bringing up these modalities, the emotion code and body code, and he's, again, I mark my words.
Emanuel Zevollos (01:32:51.438)
He will be recognized as one of the greatest visionaries of our time, as Dr. Bradley Nelson. Anyway, we had a dinner together and I asked him, said, what's next on the emotion code? Like, does it expand, does it become more and blah, blah, blah? And he says, the purpose of the emotion code is to increase the group of faith of a small group of people, you know? And he says that this group of people will increase their faith and they will...
basically start believing, it's to increase their faith to the point where they start believing in miracles again. And so that's really what it is. It's training wheels to increase the belief back to how we used to believe our spiritual forefathers used to believe. And he says, when that happens, the emotion code will cease to exist. And I remember saying, that is the most beautiful answer I've ever heard. That is so overly expansive.
I can't even wrap my mind around it, you know, because typically the ego would kick in and be like, we're going to create this program and this program and this program, this for, know, he didn't say that he's like, the whole point is for it to like die. This, this, this was just training wheels for you to unlock who you really are and the possibilities of what you have as a human. And once that's done, it's like, there's no reason for that, that modality to exist anymore. So that should give hope to people who are listening in is that, that there are visionaries all over the world that are creating these modalities.
And if they're true visionaries and if they're true light-bearers, then you'll notice there's no ego there. They're really just trying to empower the human race and they want you to pass them up in more ways than one. anyway, hopefully that brings a good light to the podcast there.
That was incredible, incredible. Emanuel, how can people get into your world? Where can they find you? Where are you hanging out? What are you excited about and what's coming in the work that you're doing?
Emanuel Zevollos (01:34:45.432)
So there's a lot of so obviously I've been doing regression hypnotherapy for about two years now, but doing emotion code body code for 10 years. so I've been meeting luckily, I've been very blessed and I will stay forever blessed that meeting with 100 120 clients a week. So just really, really busy. But time is very elusive when you're kind of in your mission, you know, it's very elusive. You don't even think about it anymore. And what's interesting is we created a platform called Heal.
So it's have empathy and love dot that's what it stands for have empathy and love.com. so we created that so that way my wife and I we coined a term called multi layered healing. And what she does is she sends frequencies from her machine to people all over the world. And what I do is I do I use multiple modalities to work on people for seven days straight. So they get these 12 hour healings. We didn't even go into this but I do group healing as well.
And so that platform is a way that if every Sunday you want a very spiritually grounded healing, it's kind of cool. It's what I call hands up healing. It's almost like you don't have any intentions when you come to the Sunday healing. It's more of like, let the creator work with you and remove things that are blocking you from being who you should be here. And so it's a very kind of free will kind of healing that happens from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. And just for being on the platform, you get that just for being there.
But on top of that, I do announce from time to time, hey, I'm doing a seven day healing on increasing finances, or I'm doing seven day healing for losing weight or releasing weight. And so they can opt into those, but those are all optional. They don't have to do that. And if anyone joins that platform, they can reach out to me personally and say, hey, I heard you on this really awesome podcast with Tanzy. I would love an introduction session. I've never experienced this. Or they can reach out to my wife, Jessica Zavios, say, I've never had a scan before. Can you like scan my voice? She would be.
Glad to do that. that's the best place to find me. If you find me on YouTube, look up Compass Healing Center. yeah, there was just, I think it's just Compass Healing. And I think I have 700 videos there. So I've definitely put in some work there.
Tansy Rodgers (01:36:58.442)
Awesome. Well, all those links will be down in the show notes for easy access. Jump on down and click away. Emanuel, thank you so much for all that you brought today, all of the passion, all the wisdom. I appreciate you. I love these conversations. I could have talked to you for like five more hours, if not more. It was great conversation. Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you for doing what you're doing for all the people here in your podcast for adding light and what you do in your work. so I'm grateful for you being vulnerable on this podcast. You sharing some personal stuff about your vulnerability and shifting. so your growth, I know, is probably inspiring a ton of people. So I'm grateful for your growth as well and that you're someone that not only just you you could be quiet about your growth, but you decided to make a podcast to help other people. And that's so commendable because we just need more.
people that are on the healing journey that actually talk about it, not just kind of keep it in. So yeah, thanks for all that you do as well.
Thank you. What an incredible episode.
This episode in particular really just helps to remind you that it is okay, it's essential for you to stop and take a breath, to notice what your body's saying right now before your mind tries to explain it away. A huge gratitude to Emmanuel for this conversation. If you want to explore his work and dive in a little bit more with what we talked about today and his world, make sure to jump on down to the show notes
Tansy Rodgers (01:38:31.944)
and click the links to help follow the threads that really tugged at you today. And here are a few things I want you just to think about and reflect on. Where am I performing a role that no longer is mine? And what did I inherit that I'm ready to bless and release?
And finally, what does my true yes feel like when it's in my body? How does that make me feel? And what does that look like? And until next time, keep spreading that beautiful energy you were born to share.
