The Energy Fix Episode 124 - FINAL.mp3
2025-07-08
Transcript
0:00:13 Tansy Rodgers: Welcome back to the Energy Fix, a podcast dedicated to help you balance your energetic body by diving deep into the sweet world of all things health and spirituality. My name’s Tansy and and I’m an intuitive crystal Reiki energy healer, energetic nutrition and holistic health practitioner, and a crystal jewelry designer. It’s time to talk all things energy. Let’s dive in. Today’s episode is going to be such a fun one. This is one question, one topic that I get asked about so often, and it’s a huge conversation.
0:00:51 Tansy Rodgers: And so it’s my pleasure to bring on an expert today to really dive in to hormones and how hormones affect every single aspect of your life. You know, if you’ve ever wondered why you’re so exhausted, even though your labs say that you’re quote unquote normal, or why anxiety, fatigue, low libido seem to sneak up out of nowhere, then this episode is going to be for you. And since we’re going to be having this conversation, I am feeling extra aligned, extra lit up this week, and not just because we’re going to be talking about hormone health with the incredible Dr. Nyan Patel.
0:01:34 Tansy Rodgers: Although, yes, that’s definitely part of it. But there’s something that is just in the air right now. Yesterday, I officially moved the first pieces of furniture into the lit it’s Mind Body Studio. I am so excited. This is our brand new holistic wellness space that is finally coming to life. My business partners and I are seeing these little signs of alignment everywhere. From meeting the sweetest neighbors to finding the exact materials and helpers that we needed exactly when we needed them.
0:02:10 Tansy Rodgers: It’s like the universe is saying, go now. And we are, we are, we are trying to stay in flow. We’re saying, yes, we’re moving forward. It’s been such a whirlwind of events. I mean, to think back that this literally came about within three to four weeks time, like everything just lined up. It’s, it’s so synchronistic and I can’t even deny that this feels like the right calling the right forward movement.
0:02:42 Tansy Rodgers: So while the floors are getting prepped and polished behind the scenes, because that’s what’s coming next, we’re getting our flooring, we’re getting things ready to roll while that is prepped. I am still offering some beautiful in person healing opportunities this month. So let me tell you a little bit about what’s going on this month so that you’re fully aware. And then we’re going to dive into this episode.
0:03:05 Tansy Rodgers: So on Thursday, July 10, you can come over to Shabaya Healing Arts now. I know if you’re listening to this in real time, that’s only two days away. You can join me over at Shavia Healing Arts and Lit. It’s for another powerful sound and Crystal Reiki group healing session starting at 4 5:30pm will shake off the energy static and get you feeling clear and centered again. And if you really want to dive into one of these seats here at the session or really at any of our monthly group sessions, you can scroll down into the show notes and click on the link to contact me directly. Let me know that you want to reserve a spot on Friday, July 11. I don’t know, do you?
0:03:53 B: Do you know?
0:03:54 Tansy Rodgers: Are you aware that there is a series going on right now here on the Energy Fix podcast? Because if you don’t, I definitely want to make you aware and have you head on over and check it out. I am doing a crystal series all about the chakras and talking about specific practices and crystals and ways of approaching the chakras that are going to help you get into better alignment this summer. So if you head on over to the podcast on Friday, July 11, you are going to find the Heart Chakra episode. It is dropping as part of the next Crystal series. I have been loving this journey with you. I have been loving the feedback.
0:04:39 Tansy Rodgers: I have been loving that you are sharing this with the people that you love. You respect that you want to teach and you’re using it as a tool. It that makes me so incredibly happy. You have no idea that this has a ripple effect into other people’s lives and is allowing other people to see the magnitude of healing that can come out of working with the chakras, working with crystals and listening to the Energy Fix podcast. Of course July 12th and 13th that is coming up in just a few short days too. That is a Saturday and a Sunday. You can come visit me. Visit me over at the Mid Summer Holistic Expo in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
0:05:25 Tansy Rodgers: If you are local or semi local, make the trip on over. Come hang out. It’s a great expo and it is just jam packed with a ton of vendors from all different holistic backgrounds. I personally will have some jewelry tools, I will have some energetic tools and of course as always the high vibe support that’s going to match your summer energy. I have new crystals that I debut debuted at the last show that I was at and I will have more of those new brand spanking new sparkly crystals to show off as well.
0:06:06 Tansy Rodgers: And then finally on Thursday July 31st all the way at the end of the month I will be back in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania for another enlightened day at Reiki by Ricky’s with my mini one on one crystal healing energy sessions. They always fill up quick so make sure that you go down to the show notes, click the link and claim your spot early. I have a few spots left but they are going and I’ve had interest of people signing up. So if this is something that interests you, please jump on down there and grab a spot if you’re local and you do something in person.
0:06:48 Tansy Rodgers: Now today I am joined by the incredible Dr. Nianne Patel. He is a pharmacist, a wellness expert and the author of the Glutathione Revolution. He’s the real deal when it comes to bioidentical hormone therapy, root cause healing and personalized medicine that honors your body and your own personal needs, not some generic protocol that only half works. Because in this world, in this root cause healing world, it is critical that you are getting something personalized and not just something that is a protocol that you are throwing spaghetti at the wall and not quite sure if it’s going to stick or not.
0:07:40 Tansy Rodgers: We talk myths, we talk red flags, we talk testosterone, perimenopause, the microbiome’s role in hormonal health. And yes, we talk a little bit about glutathione, the master antioxidant that you didn’t know that you needed. We talk about all of this and this is not just for women, this is also for men. We are going to address men’s hormonal health as well. So buckle up, get cozy because this one just might change how you see your body and your energy forever.
0:08:13 Tansy Rodgers: Let’s dive in.
0:08:16 B: Welcome to the Energy Fix podcast. Thank you so much for being here, Dr. Patel.
0:08:22 Dr. Nayan Patel: Well, thanks for having me here today.
0:08:25 B: You know, here at the Energy Fix, I want the listeners to really get to know you before you dive into the wisdom and the work and all of the incredible information that you’re going to share with us today. I want them to get to know you with where you’re at right now. So I’m really curious, do you have a word or a phrase you’re connecting to right now and that you’re feeling very passionate and strong to?
0:08:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: The word that comes in my mind is gratitude. I’m so thankful for today, for it has enlightened me in multiple ways about people that are in my life. That includes my wife, my son, my daughters. And it’s just I had a great moment this morning during My meditation. So I’m so grateful to be here today.
0:09:17 B: I love that. Well, okay. Dr. Patel, I, I gotta ask this though. You know, sometimes, especially right now, the world’s a little crazy and life feels a little insane some days and sometimes it’s hard to see. It’s hard to see the beauty in the moment and it’s hard to be grateful for that and to keep your heart open. So how do you do it? How are you staying in that or how are you practicing to stay in that?
0:09:46 Dr. Nayan Patel: Well, there are a couple of things that I do. I’ve been doing that for long periods of time. One is I don’t read any newspapers. I don’t have any news TV channels in my house. And so there is no media, so to speak, is in my life. I, I seek out media on, on my own terms, but nobody’s going to get to me on their, on their own at all. So that’s one thing. The second thing is that I have to fill up the time with something positive.
0:10:18 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so I do practice daily meditations and daily gratitudes and, and that gets me going for the first half of the day and the second half of the day. I just have to do some deep bre. This afternoon. I’ll be, I’m just doing some deep breathing right now and get, get myself refocused, get my cortisol levels low enough so my, so my mind gets refreshed again and ready for, for the other half of the day.
0:10:44 Dr. Nayan Patel: Hmm.
0:10:45 B: And honestly, I mean, our whole conversation today is going to be about hormones and wherever we dive into and get tangented off into. Right. But I feel like everything you just said right there is huge pieces of the hormone balancing protocols. Really. I mean, it is starting your day with no news and staying off social media and being in a place of seeing, changing your perception, lowering your cortisol levels.
0:11:19 B: Oh, that is hormone therapy in and of itself.
0:11:24 Dr. Nayan Patel: Well, that’s how I start my day every day.
0:11:27 B: I love that. When I was learning about you and about your work and really diving into the wisdom that you share, one thing that really stood out to me, that I would love to noodle into, to dive into, is that you said our hormones aren’t generic and our treatment plans should not be generic either, that they need to be more customized. So can you share what drew you into this more personalized, root cause driven approach to hormone health and where you’re taking that?
0:12:04 Dr. Nayan Patel: Well, it’s, it doesn’t have a fairy tale story, but I’ll tell you the reality of this whole Thing when you, When I graduate from the pharmacy school, I was set to change the course of, of medicine in America with my ideas about helping patients literally take, take medications and use medications to help them heal the body. I quickly realized that the medications we had in our arsenal was not going to heal the body was just basically masking the symptoms.
0:12:39 Dr. Nayan Patel: And unfortunately these patients are going to be on the medications for rest of their lives. And I said that, well, if, if I take a medication for rest of my life and it’s so all it’s doing is not actually doing anything other than masculine symptom, we have this whole thing wrong. And so I started diving into figuring out what I can do to help my patients that we already have inside our body. And if we can enhance it, modify it, change it, or improve upon it, then hopefully I can give the control back to the body to take care of its own problems.
0:13:18 Dr. Nayan Patel: And it’s all idealistic at that point. But keep in mind, I was fresh out of school, I had student loads up my eyeballs and so, so I had to figure out is this going to be profitable business in the first place or not?
0:13:30 D: Right.
0:13:31 Dr. Nayan Patel: And I realized that, you know what, doing customized treatment plans was not something it was readily available. There’s literally a handful of people in the whole country doing this work. And so. And finding clients that they’ll pay for my services was not easy to find. So the original plan was to do this service, provide the service to people with high network individuals. Since I’m in California, it was easy to find those people.
0:14:00 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so it was more for a business setting than bringing to the masses. But like everything else, right, Once you see the benefits that you can see in your patients, quickly I realized that I need to bring this to the masses. How about people that can’t afford my services? Can they still afford to get the medications? How can I bring this thing down? And so we work really hard to work on those. After my first initial couple of years of dealing with high net worth individuals, to bring this to masses by education, by providing better service, better quality product at a very, very reasonable price.
0:14:37 Dr. Nayan Patel: So that’s. So that’s. Yeah, it’s not a juicy story, but it’s the reality that people start with something as a fulfillment for making sure that I can survive and then quickly dive in to say, hey, I’ve survived. Now can I help the world? Yeah.
0:14:55 B: And you know, I love your vulnerability and your honesty with that because in true admittance here, I feel that there are so many doctors out there who just Kind of slap this label on of hormone imbalances and really leave the patient standing there like, well, what does that even mean? What do I do? And there’s, you know, hormone replacement therapy gets thrown around. And again, what do you do with that?
0:15:25 B: Where do you go with that? And I feel like since hormones have become such a buzzword in the holistic wellness, the nutritional world, just getting healthy in general, I feel like there is still a lot of confusion. My doctor’s telling me this, and I know I need to do this, but what the heck is hormone replacement therapy? And why do I even care about hormones? And how does stress. So let’s just pull some of that confusion away, some of the fog.
0:15:56 B: And I’m sure many listeners here probably already know what hormones are, right? But let’s just pretend they don’t for a second, okay? And dial it back. And let’s talk about why should we care in the first place that our hormones are balanced? How does this make a difference in our life? What are we dealing with? Let’s just. Let’s just get real.
0:16:21 Dr. Nayan Patel: All right, so let’s see. For the first, the simplest thing people, I want people to understand is, let’s see, there is a situation. Are you going to deal with it? For example, let’s say a dog’s chasing you. If you have no hormones, you not run. You just sit there and say, okay, just kill me. I’m done. I can’t do anything right? And so that fight orf flight response comes in from your pituitary up to the gola hormones to the adrenal glands. I said, hey, dog’s chasing you. You better run, right? You better run.
0:16:55 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s that stressor that kicks in. Kicks in the hormone called cortisol that you’re running. And when the cortisol is kicked in, guess what? Do you need blood in your stomach to digest your food? No. Because you know you have no time to go poop, right? So guess what? All the blood’s where? In your eyeballs. You can see other things in your lungs so you can exchange the blood so you can run faster and faster.
0:17:21 Dr. Nayan Patel: There is no blood in your stomach. There’s no blood in your kidneys so that you don’t have to go pee because there’s no time for that, right? And so every response, every response, you will react to or respond to it based on the stimulus. Same thing could happen. Let’s see, if you get good a job and work. How do you handle stressors, right? If you have. If you cannot respond to stress, you just go nothing. Like nothing. There’s no motivation for doing anything.
0:17:52 Dr. Nayan Patel: So in the simplest terms, hormones are absolutely essential part of our life. The only thing that you really to worry about is this. Are my hormones in proper balance or not? And the question that I get, I get asked all the time, can you measure balance? I said no, you can’t. You just cannot measure balance. You can feel the balance. You can enjoy the perfect harmony of all hormones, but you cannot measure the balance. Because as soon as I start measuring the things, something is, will not be correct.
0:18:27 Dr. Nayan Patel: Because you’re only measuring finite numbers and not doing infinite numbers of all the hormones that we have in our body. So I think I, I make my point. As simplest term is that we need the hormones. We need to respond to things and, and, and to feel balanced or to feel alive. These hormones have to be in proper ratio. The second largest hormone in our body after the cortisol is insulin. Hey, imagine if you eat food and it doesn’t, doesn’t get spiked.
0:19:02 Dr. Nayan Patel: The sugar gets built up in your body and all of a sudden within a few days, a few months, there’ll be sugar overload and this, you won’t even able to do anything right. And so the insulin is also part of the hormone system, the whole endocrine system that we have from dealing with the brain function, the emotions that we have, the stresses that we handle, the, the, the nutrition that we eat and how we digest foods. And what responses do we have? How do a body regular temperature.
0:19:31 Dr. Nayan Patel: Like if you see somebo really amazing person, do you feel a little warm inside your body? Because oh my God, this is shivers coming up. I hope I can connect with this person. Things like that. These are all responses that kick it in. These are all part of, part of who you are in your well being.
0:19:48 D: Right?
0:19:49 Dr. Nayan Patel: This is, this is your, this is your thyroid hormone is kicking in at this time. And of course the last thing that people always talk about is sex hormones, which is reality. Sex hormones are there for procreation, but the real excitement comes from the, all the other hormones from the pituitary hormone, the hypothalamic hormone, the, the cortisols, the stress management and the insulins from your diet and things like that.
0:20:13 Dr. Nayan Patel: So I hope I made my case that people need to understand that hormones are absolutely important. Without that you won’t be able to survive. It’s angel of life and angel of death. Without the hormones you can survive with too much hormones, you’re going to be all crazy. So having the right balance is what we are all trying to achieve.
0:20:33 B: And that was perfect. I want to take a few steps back because you said that you can’t measure it. You can only feel when you’re either imbalanced or imbalanced. So this may be a really hard question for you to answer because there’s so many hormones in our body, but can you give the listener an idea of maybe some stereotypical symptoms that it may look like if somebody is imbalanced versus is in balance?
0:21:06 Dr. Nayan Patel: So, so the thing is, when it comes to any specific hormones, they all have symptoms of too much or too little.
0:21:13 D: Right.
0:21:14 Dr. Nayan Patel: For example, let’s say you have hot flashes, night sweats, vaginal dryness, breast sadness, headaches. That could be symptoms of too much or too little of the same estrogens.
0:21:26 D: Right.
0:21:28 Dr. Nayan Patel: For example, you have low progesterone, can, can trigger symptoms of anxiety, mood swings, depression, sleep disturbances, things. And when you have too much of the progesterone, can also have the similar symptoms of excessive sleeping, excessive drowsiness, depression, getting worse if you already have one. And so the hormones, it’s like a pendulum. Either way you go, the symptoms are kind of identical.
0:21:55 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so our goal is to kind of push everything to the middle.
0:22:00 D: Right?
0:22:01 Dr. Nayan Patel: So when people say that, oh, I have lots of fatigue, I’m tired all the time, my hair is falling out, up, yeah, it could be thyroid, it could be low thyroid, or it could be something that, that is mimicking low thyroid symptoms where your thyroid may be okay, but you. All your other hormones are not okay. And so comparatively, the thyroid is low, but when everything comes back to normal, then comparatively, thyroid is okay.
0:22:30 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so I hate to treat any of my patients with just one hormone. I always look at the whole picture first. And can I, can I get a brief overview what’s happening in your whole life? That way I can see which hormones I need to be affecting. And the answer is not that hard, but it’s not an easy one to do.
0:22:55 B: And that’s. I love that because you need to see the whole picture. That’s really. Then also how you see the root cause of what is going on in the first place, right?
0:23:07 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s right.
0:23:08 B: But so when you. So when somebody would suspect that maybe their hormones are out of balance, either excessive or. Or depleted, whatever side it is falling on, are there certain markers or certain tests that you recommend that that person go to get checked or to see what’s going on, to talk to their doctor or another health professional that can help them to understand where they should even start?
0:23:38 Dr. Nayan Patel: So this is where the science has is, is very tricky because testing for hormones for known conditions, it’s not as easy as you think. It’s, oh, let’s go to the doctors, let’s do a draw the blood and see what hormones are too much or too little and I’m done. No, this is a dynamic situation. By the way, the reason you have fluctuating hormones every single day is because it’s trying to procreate, trying to produce babies.
0:24:09 D: Right?
0:24:09 Dr. Nayan Patel: And in menopause there’s no need to produce any more babies. So the hormone levels are kind of flatlined the whole time, right. It doesn’t go up and down at all. And so if that is true, what day of the month, what time of the day are you going to do a blood test? Every single moment it’s a different results.
0:24:33 D: Right.
0:24:34 Dr. Nayan Patel: Because the hormones doesn’t get produced 24, 7 gets produced once, once a day, maybe the levels are high and it starts going drop. I’m not sure when the, when the body’s going to do that job for us, right. If I can figure that portion out, maybe I can figure out what the curve looks like. So it’s very hard to identify what that, what that means. But on the flip side, over the last, I don’t know, 50, 60, 70 years, we have collected millions and millions of patients of data to analyze, hey, what hormones symptoms are related to excess or depleted, what particular hormone?
0:25:19 Dr. Nayan Patel: And if I combine them with all the other hormones, how do they behave? So we have all these answers. So even if you, if you just have a good list of all the problems you have throughout a 30 day cycle, hey, day one, these are my problems. Day two, these are the problems. I, we can literally, a good clinician can literally map out what the hormone levels are fluctuating. You can tell me it’s okay, another first five or six days, you’re too much of estrogens, maybe you are on day 15, day 16 because that based on, based on the similar symptoms this with ovulation happened and because of that there should be more progesterone.
0:25:57 Dr. Nayan Patel: But the position level did not rise because there was no pregnancy. And that’s why you had the symptoms of low progesterone to begin with and now you’re having PMS type symptoms and so and so forth, right? So yes, you can measure the blood test, you can measure saliva test, you can do urine test, you can do a 30 day test and try to get some, some arbitrary numbers. But the reality is that the true information is in the symptoms, what your body’s going through every day having a proper chart is so critical and making sure that information is available to the physicians to make a correct diagnosis as to how they can treat with, with medications if, if any.
0:26:43 Dr. Nayan Patel: But when you say menopause, the menopause, the hormone levels drops because there’s no chance of procreation. There’s no more periods. And so what happens then is that the levels are low. You can measure how low they are. You can do a blood test and measure how low they are and raise up to somewhere appropriate range that have been proven tested to have some efficacy when it comes to cardiovascular protections, osteoporosis and brain health. And once you get to that range, it’s easy to do from what’s below to what’s high and that’s easy to do.
0:27:18 Dr. Nayan Patel: But the majority of people are not in menopause. Majority of people that come to us are in perimenopause or young girls and PMS time. And yeah, the life is not pretty at this time.
0:27:32 B: I will say that without even realizing I was already starting to do what you just talked about was the tracking. You know, I, I was, had a few of my own health things that were going on and I got into this habit of just really tracking every day some of the major things that were going on and just note and it helped me to see patterns that I wasn’t seeing. So I love that, I love that tip of just simply starting to track and begin, begin opening your eyes because you know, when you are living in it every single day, it’s hard to see the patterning.
0:28:12 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s right.
0:28:13 B: And so, yeah, and so as you bring up about menopause, let’s talk about some of those signs and those signals. You know, I’m curious if there are some early or maybe even surprising signs and signals or symptoms that someone may be experiencing that’s already saying, hey, your hormones are becoming a little bit out of sync. You know, this is before any of the typical quote unquote onset ages may start to come forward.
0:28:46 Dr. Nayan Patel: So you know what, that, that’s, that’s an easy answer. But for, for most people it’s very hard to digest an answer. And I’m going to give you the answer and you’re going to see, oh shoot, now what I do with this answer, right? That’s what’s going to happen right now. So let’s, let’s talk about this thing. As I said earlier, the sex hormones, the estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, DHA, pregnant, things like that, the sex hormones are literally 10% of the total solution for your overall hormone health.
0:29:19 Dr. Nayan Patel: Let me read one more time because I want people to understand that part. Sex hormones are, is a 10% solution for your overall hormone health. So what’s the majority?
0:29:33 D: Right?
0:29:34 Dr. Nayan Patel: So look, if it’s a pyramid, right? If it’s a pyramid, the bottom of the pyramid, which is the 40% of total problems comes from your adrenal glands or your stress management or your cortisol. Please don’t tell me. Well, I cannot change my situation. I can’t change my spouses, I can’t change my kids. I can’t change anything that I have built myself into. But I’ll tell you one more thing. Yes, you cannot change the situation, but you can change how you respond to it.
0:30:08 Dr. Nayan Patel: You can change how you feel about it. You can change your thinking around it. And by changing that, you can literally reduce your cortisol down. If you’re not happy happy about your job, well, find out what you are happy about within the job. Oh, there’s nothing happy about it. Well, I hope they’re getting, I hope you’re getting paid. Do you like to get paid from your job? The answer is yes. Well, there’s one thing that you like about this job, right?
0:30:38 Dr. Nayan Patel: And by the time you look at the list of things you, I’m, I’m sure you can find few of the things that you like about this job that, that you absolutely hate, right? And so start liking, appreciating things that you. Positive things that will bring the cortisol levels down. That’s 40% of the problem right there. Solved. Let’s see, you did everything possible to fix that. What’s the next issue? The next issue is 30% is insulin.
0:31:06 Dr. Nayan Patel: Your diet, your nutrition. Well, I cannot help it but I’m always on the go and I always eat fast foods. I don’t have time to eat again, self inflicted. I’m sorry to say that there’s. When you go to the grocery stores, only shop in the peripheries. What’s in the periphery? Fresh vegetables, fresh meats, fresh fruits and that’s it. In the middle of the whole grocery storage is 80% off. The whole grocery store is what? Packaged goods packages that tell you what’s inside.
0:31:45 Dr. Nayan Patel: Fresh food doesn’t say anything. What’s inside. So if there’s labeling, you’re not eating it. If there’s no label you can eat as much as you want. That’s. It’s just life makes simple. Now the nutrition or the diet is a 30% of the total solution. If you combine that with the stress management, that is 70% of the solution is in your hand that you have 100% control over it.
0:32:13 Tansy Rodgers: It.
0:32:14 Dr. Nayan Patel: I can, I can tell you I’ve seen this a lot of obese people in my practice and nobody’s ever told me that I accidentally ate something. They ate something knowingly that hey, I will eat this food, even though I know this is not the right food for my, for my body.
0:32:36 D: Right.
0:32:37 Dr. Nayan Patel: So that’s the 70% of the solutions right there. Then the next 20% of the solution is regulating your body temperature, the body emotions. With thyroid. Thyroid is such a small gland right over here, it’s such a small, right under your neck, but yet it controls your whole body emotions and regulatory temperature. That’s a 20% of the solutions that is easy to measure in your bloodstream as in hey, what your levels are.
0:33:04 Dr. Nayan Patel: And by the way, the thyroid gland is a response to a pituitary function. With the pituitary, there’s a TSH hormone hormone that gets secreted and that regulates how much a thyroid gland produces thyroid. So the end of the day the brain is to think, okay, you know what, I am too cold, let me heat up the body or I’m too warm, let me cool down the body, whatever that is. It will send the signal to the thyroid to produce. Thyroid comes in the pituitary.
0:33:35 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s a 20% solution. That’s doable. And the last 10% of the solution is sex hormones. Estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, DHEA and so and so forth. Now if you ask any, anybody that, hey, I can solve your problem with 10% solution. Would you hire that person to work on you?
0:33:57 B: Absolutely not.
0:33:58 Dr. Nayan Patel: No, no. I want somebody who said, you know what, I, I have a 70% solution for you. But that means you have to start working at it. Diet. You start managing your own stress. Stop managing your food, your diet, the foods you eat, the, the, the water you drink or the non watered beverages that you drink control every single thing.
0:34:20 D: Right.
0:34:21 Dr. Nayan Patel: If I can do that alone, the hormone health get better.
0:34:26 D: Right?
0:34:27 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so how are you going to measure some of them, maybe not all of them. You can measure insulin levels and when they spike and go down, you can measure the aftermath of insulin. Like the, like the sugar levels and the, and the glucose levels and you can measure those out. You can measure stress hormones like throughout the day, like three or four times a day doing a saliva testing and you see what your stress levels are doing, but the stress levels is different every day. Because the stimulus, what you see, what you hear, what you feel, what you experience is different every day.
0:34:56 Dr. Nayan Patel: And based on that stimulus, you’re going to have different emotions. Now you see, how hard is it to measure balance?
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0:36:44 B: So challenging. And I have to say, you know, as a woman myself who is clearly in perimenopause at the age of 47, clearly based off of symptoms, it’s maddening. It is absolutely maddening, Dr. Nayan, because. Because, you know, this is a time where life circumstances change. For so many that are my age, right. Career advances, stress, yes. Busy times, taking care of family members that maybe are aging, but also maybe having children that they’re still taking care of while doing all of the other management.
0:37:24 B: It is a busy time of life. And yet this is the time that it is. It’s always important to manage your stress, but especially right now, it’s so important to manage the stress levels and your adrenal health because that is truly what’s going to make you feel well and at your best from a hormonal standpoint. And so it’s maddening. It really is.
0:37:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: And I talk to doctors that’s literally a daily basis. And the number one concern that most of the doctors that works with me have, the number one concern is that how do I take this perimenopausal patient? That’s the number one concern for them. It’s easy to treat menopausal patient because you’re giving exogenous hormones to them. So that’s fine, control everything that I give you. But the perimenopausal patients, what’s happening is that the number of eggs in your body are reducing.
0:38:23 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so the body’s working harder and harder and harder trying to get those eggs into some, into the follicles and get them matured in the hope to get pregnant. That’s the body’s number one job, is to procreate, right? And if there’s less and less number of eggs remaining in your body, it makes it even harder and harder and harder to get into the follicles and to mature those eggs. And so to do that, they have to produce a lot more hormones than normal to get these things done.
0:38:59 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s why when women have baby in the mid-40s or afterwards, it’s a challenging time for these young moms because the hormone levels are very, very high. And it can also damage the babies, the fetus as well, right? And so managing those hormones in a perimenopausal state, if you do get pregnant, it is extremely challenging for most physicians is very challenging. So perimenopause time, it is the, is the most challenging part of time of your life.
0:39:34 Dr. Nayan Patel: Life because part of the hormones have been produced by the ovaries, part of the hormones are produced by the adrenal glands, all the stools are coming from the pituitary. And as you just mentioned, the stress levels are literally out of control. You have teenagers in your house, if you’re in a multi generational family, you may have your parents maybe asking for your help. Help. You are in your career, at the pitch, at the tip of advancements in your life now, right?
0:40:09 Dr. Nayan Patel: And how many people have lost advancement because they just cannot handle stress during this difficult time?
0:40:15 D: Right?
0:40:16 Dr. Nayan Patel: It’s not that the females are not, not smart enough to take that initial challenge is the physically, physically or chemically, the body is not responding to all those needs. The question then becomes that, do we have a solution or are we just going to keep on talking about problems?
0:40:38 D: Right?
0:40:39 B: Yeah, that’s a great question. Do we have some solutions instead of just talking about the problems?
0:40:46 Dr. Nayan Patel: So for me, the solution starts from basic. If I can do one thing and get, can get rid of 40% of my problems. What would that one thing be? Manage my stress. Manage my stress.
0:41:01 D: Right?
0:41:02 Dr. Nayan Patel: Yes. You can get off your kids, you can’t get off your in laws, you can’t get your spouses, you can’t give your parents.
0:41:08 D: Right?
0:41:09 Dr. Nayan Patel: These are part of your life. How you respond to them is up to you.
0:41:16 D: Right?
0:41:17 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so in my, in my it for all my clients and I mostly see doctors, I train my doctors and doctors see the patients and I tell the doctors all the time there’s 15 things they can do. And I mean you can put in your favorite search engine how to reduce stress with, without medications and it will give you like list of 15 things. And what, what are the 15 things? Meditation, yoga, cold plunging, star grazing, sightseeing, gratitudes, brushing your body, right?
0:41:54 Dr. Nayan Patel: Slow, slow movements, sound therapy, music and humming and all the. Again, no, no money required, right? But you got to do this every single day. Every single day. I mean I, my, I usually be, I’ll always be humming some music in my, in my mouth mouth the whole time. I’m always humming about something and my kids almost goes, dad, what are you doing? I said I’m just. My vagal nerve because the kids are driving me crazy over here so I can see my, my vagal nerve over here so I can calm myself down.
0:42:32 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so these are the kind of things that you do on a regular basis, becomes part of your daily routine to control your cortisol, to control your adrenalins. By the way, this is another problem that I’m facing today is until about 10, 15 years ago, I was only dealing with cortisol levels being out of range. Today we’re dealing with not just cortisol, but even with adrenaline out of range. Because people are literally adrenaline junkies, literally.
0:43:08 Dr. Nayan Patel: And they are looking. And when they go to social media, they’re looking for the dopamine hit every single time. Dopamine, Dopamine, dopamine. It’s addicting to the, to the 10th degree. It is absolutely out of control right now. And that addiction is, is not allowing for people to feel humane, to feel other people’s feeling empathy. It’s it, it is, it is diminishing all this feelings from people and is affecting the, the way they manage stress, right?
0:43:48 Dr. Nayan Patel: A simple thing and they get frazzled, right? And so number one thing is do non medicated things to control stress. You know, put a timer on your cell phone. Found that in a day I get half an hour social media per week. After half an hour My social media platform, which shuts off and never reopens again without a password. So if we can do that, the screen time, right? For the screen time, and that way you have half an hour a week to catch up on anybody messaged you, done, move on, right? But you kill. You won’t be doing mindless two, three hours a day that I. I hear from people. Simple first thing. That’s the easiest one.
0:44:34 Dr. Nayan Patel: Second thing. Second solution, again, these are. This doesn’t cost you any money, right? I like the solution. That doesn’t cost you any money because that means anybody can do it. Anybody can do it. The second solution is your diet. And I’m telling you, if you have to read a label, what’s in the box, you’re not eating it. Even if it says organic 100 pure, free of this and that, whatever. If there’s a nutrition label on it, it’s not real food.
0:45:04 Dr. Nayan Patel: It’s processed food. That’s what they put a slap a label on it, right? Real food has no labels. I can show you my banana over here has no labels on it. I know what’s inside, right? Real foods, folks. Real foods, real water. Nothing else, right? I don’t drink tea or coffee or juices or sodas or alcohols or whatever. It’s not necessary. Now people may tell me, what’s the fun in life. I said, the real fun is when you’re healthy, the things you can do in life, right?
0:45:44 Dr. Nayan Patel: The fun is not giving your body body for pleasure, for your tongue. I said, I’ll sacrifice my tongue for the whole body to experience life, right? And so it’s this different perspective. And by the way, it’s like everything is an acquired taste. So. So what if you don’t like broccoli? I’m sure you love broccoli for, for what it does for your body. And so I tell all my kids, all the whole time, kids hate me for that sometimes. But Said, I said, if you think that you drink alcohol, guess what? The first time you drink alcohol, you’re not gonna like it.
0:46:22 Dr. Nayan Patel: You’re not gonna like it. But guess what? You acquire the taste of something bitter and something nasty. Because that’s a cool thing to do. In reality, if. If you’re doing that for alcohol, you can do the same thing for broccoli. Because guess what? You acquire taste for broccoli. You love broccoli because of what it does for your body. Morning. I’m just using broccoli as an example, by the way. Start not studying broccoli all day long.
0:46:49 Dr. Nayan Patel: So but just give you some examples. So anyways, eating real foods, keeping it simples, stay away from process and by God ultra processed food should never be in your house whatsoever. Even processed foods. If it’s once a month, yeah, maybe I’m okay with it. But on daily basis, no, no, that cannot be a norm.
0:47:13 D: Right.
0:47:14 Dr. Nayan Patel: Set up a solution is right there. Then comes thyroid. Hey, I can check your thyroid in a blood test. It’s simple test, check it out. Regular thyroid hormones. I can make the thyroid medications for you for the thyroid medications. The biggest issue that we have with the thyroid is that that all the medications that they are available in the pharmaceutical site side is an inactive form of fib, which is T4, which is levothyroxine.
0:47:39 Dr. Nayan Patel: The body’s to take the levothyroxin and make into active which is le Le the Leo thyronine is what’s active that gets inside your cells, gets to regular temperature and all those things. So the VO T3 conversion happens in your body all the time. But the conversion gets little bit dicey or irregular in high stress environment if you’re low on magnesium, selenium, iodine and zinc. So if you’re missing all this elements and nutrition, then the conversions can get sluggish.
0:48:15 Dr. Nayan Patel: So if you take a pill, which is T4 only, but you’re not managing all the nutrition and your stressors, the conversion is not happening. You see why I told you manage your stress first. If you measure stress first and your nutrition, the thyroid that I’m going to give you is absolutely going to work. And if you don’t do the first two things, guess what I’m going to make for you? I’m going to make you a T4 and T3 combination capsules. Because I know you’re not, you’re not going to do the right things for yourself.
0:48:49 Dr. Nayan Patel: So we have a solution. Even though I don’t like to prescribe the medication, unfortunately patients are not going to change who they are and what they do because they build their identity, they built a community. There were strong feelings about the diet. They have the strong feelings about everything they do. And it’s really hard to change that, right? It’s hard for me to change things.
0:49:15 D: Right?
0:49:15 Dr. Nayan Patel: So I understand that part is not that easy to change. And so we improvise and we give a T4 T3 conversion capsule and the last thing comes to the sex hormones. Now by the way, if you’re having heart fudge, I’m not coming to you again. I, I got, I, I need a pill. Right now I can’t sleep. You don’t hearing me right. And so, so here’s what we do normally, right? When the patients comes to us. I said, okay, I’ll give you some hormones, I can make you sleep, feel better, sleep better, take care of your hot flashes and then your night sweats.
0:49:51 Dr. Nayan Patel: But keep in mind that is just getting rid of the symptoms. That is not holistically healing your whole endocrine system.
0:50:01 D: Right.
0:50:02 Dr. Nayan Patel: So I, I may give some progesterone so you can sleep better, maybe give some testosterone to increase your libido, maybe help increase your muscle mass, maybe help help with the osteoporosis a little bit and things like that. But it’s still, that is not holistic healing morning. That is just symptomatic relief.
0:50:19 D: Right?
0:50:19 Dr. Nayan Patel: And I can, we can do that part. We can do the prescribing of the hormones based on symptoms. And once the symptoms are there, I can tell you what hormones you need. We give you the hormones and about four to six weeks later we can do a blood test to see how, how your, how your body is responding to the hormones. And based on that responses we can keep on adjust up and down based on how your body responds.
0:50:40 Dr. Nayan Patel: Now that’s the solution, right? Right. So, but this is the hierarchy. If we can do that part, we ideal stress first, diet second, thy thirst a third. And then finally you do the sex hormones. But in reality, guess what? Everybody does completely opposite. Give me my hormones, you know, I’m going to shoot you fix my thyroid, you know, maybe I’ll work my diet because I’m already a little bit on the heavy side anyways. But doctor said I have to lose weight anyways. I work my diet, the stress, I have no idea what I’m going to do.
0:51:13 Dr. Nayan Patel: I’ll try to do something.
0:51:18 B: I am over here laughing so hard myself because I see the exact same thing. You’re absolutely right. And even when people come to me, that is one of the first things that they say is what can you tell me about hormone replacement therapy? And I’m like, like that’s okay, but we need to look at other stuff first. And this is exactly why, I mean there’s so many great points that you just touched on. That’s exactly why stress is something I talk about all the time. Nervous system regulation is, I feel like a broken record. I’m sure the people that follow me regularly are probably so tired of hearing me talk about nervous system regulation, but it is so critical at these stages of our lives.
0:52:09 B: And you know, I love I love how you talked about the adrenaline junkie. I’ve never heard somebody describe it that way. And that is so brilliant. You’re absolutely right. That addiction that we, for example, social media scrolling, that addiction translates into every other area of our lives. And we start responding, we. With every moment in this adrenaline response. That was a really great, that was a really great metaphor.
0:52:40 B: Shouldn’t say metaphor an example of how that works?
0:52:44 Dr. Nayan Patel: Absolutely. We see this on a daily basis of patients and it’s, it’s sad because I have young girls coming to us with PMS type symptoms and it’s all stemming from, from stress management. It is amazing that these young girls want to move out of the house. They can’t afford it. They want to live. They can live. They’re with the parents. Sometimes they’re not happy with the situation, but yet their own internal habits are so erratic that they are not allowing the body to experience the joy that we should be having at this very young age.
0:53:24 Dr. Nayan Patel: Instead, we are numbing every single thing down. And it’s so sad to see that.
0:53:29 B: Yeah. Okay, so let’s, let’s step back and look at that big picture. We’ve already determined that there is something imbalanced. We’ve determined that we need to figure out exactly what’s going on. Maybe somebody comes to you and they say, all right, enough is enough. I need to do what I need to do. I’m even willing to, to work on my stress and my diet. Right. But I first need to see where I’m at. Let’s talk about normal levels in lab results versus optimal levels, because this is a big thing that I don’t think many people truly understand.
0:54:07 B: When you go to the doctor and they say, oh, your thyroid is in normal levels. Well, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s optimal. So can you talk about that and what that means?
0:54:19 Dr. Nayan Patel: Absolutely. So when the lab testing come, the, the, the laboratory that does all the testings, they have to create their own reference ranges. That means they take a thousand patients. They ask, you said do you feel normal? The answer is yes. Let me draw the labs. And this is for normal. Personal lab looks like.
0:54:42 D: Right.
0:54:43 Dr. Nayan Patel: If you feel that I’m not a normal, then, then the ranges, then the range is not. Doesn’t. If, if it’s outside this range, then you’re not normal.
0:54:53 D: Right.
0:54:54 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so that’s how the reference ranges were established originally. Of course, some of the reference ranges are universal. That means they have been done by all the labs across the, across the globe. And they figured out that hey, this is the normal range for all the human beings on the planet Earth, right? And so that’s what the range is going to be. And this is, it’s a range, it’s a range. It’s not in one number, it’s a range, a low number and a high number.
0:55:22 Dr. Nayan Patel: If you’re below the low number, then you are grossly having low levels of this particular hormone. If you have too much of it, that means there’s toxicity associated with this hormone that’s too much of a it. And in reality is that it can only happen in case of some tumors of some problem that your body is uncontrollably producing large amount of hormones. There should be any need for producing large amount of hormones.
0:55:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: So that’s the range. Now keep in mind this is again, this is my personal theory. This is, I’m not studying anybody else’s work. This is my personal theory that I, I’ve observed that when you’re young, your body is exposed to stressors and poor nutrition and, and hormone imbalances. And the body is so young that it will fix on its own, try to readjust every single thing they have and bring back to homeostasis, right?
0:56:23 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so it is doing something inside the body, rearranging all the other hormones, the pituitary, the hypothalamic hormones, the, the goal hormones, the stress hormones, every single thing, it’s rearranging in such a way that you don’t feel not normal, right? And so the body keeps on doing that the whole time. What happens is that over time the body says, I cannot bring it back to normality anymore.
0:56:51 Dr. Nayan Patel: You know, the, the stresses are not reducing, the diet is not improving, your hormones are not improving. So I cannot bring you back to homeostasis. So for the. So then what it happens is that the, the, the, the, the levels of your particular hormones are getting out of range. And I say out of range. They’re still in the normal range, but they are either moving up or moving down, right? And then over time, over 5, 10, 20 years, either they will go outside the range, either they moved up all the way outside or all the way down below.
0:57:25 Dr. Nayan Patel: But the problem is there’s, there’s a trend. If it’s coming from high to low, there’s a trend that every so years is coming from high to limit lower to a little bit lower, to the bit lower and eventually so low. Oh my God. Let’s treat you now. The problem is the trend. Nobody is telling you well, whatever you’re doing right now is not working for you. You better fix it because the, the next stop is, is, is going down.
0:57:55 D: Right?
0:57:56 Dr. Nayan Patel: For example, imagine you’re in a Titanic and you saw an iceberg miles away. You saw, but that was a mile, an iceberg. What do you do? Well, let’s wait and see. Hopefully it’ll go away. Now you’re driving towards it. You’re, you’re driving towards it. Oh, that’s because it’s getting closer and closer and closer. But you make the move and by the time it gets too close where now you cannot make change the course of, of your life, guess what happens?
0:58:30 Dr. Nayan Patel: It’s going to bump into it, right? If the trend of your hormones is going down and there’s no sign of improving because you’re not doing anything to improve your, your, your, your hormone levels, what’s going to end up below normal. So the issue is we have to identify is it optimal? Suboptimal outer range. There’s all these different terms. Suboptimal means that, hey, these are normal, the levels are normal.
0:59:02 Dr. Nayan Patel: But I’d like to be on the higher side because this is where I was maybe 10 years ago and I felt great at that time, but now, but now I’m not. It’s still within the range, but it’s not out of range. It’s easy to identify things that they’re out of range because it’s out of range. Let’s give you some hormones.
0:59:22 D: Done, right?
0:59:23 Dr. Nayan Patel: How much? Well, we get you in the range and then, then it’s up to you, right? That’s not what it’s supposed to be. The, the issue is everybody has an optimal level of hormones. Your optimal hormones is different from mine. Your optimal is different from your own sister and your mother and your, and your, and your friends. Everybody’s different. That’s where, when we talk about customized therapy comes into play.
0:59:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: Because what we have to do is we identify what, what your normal is and give the levels of hormones to you for that for one person. And, and you can only experience normal when you get there, when you feel optimal, when you feel great. I want to measure your levels. I want to see what levels is optimal for you. That, that could be a benchmark for the future as well. So if you do one test, hey, I feel fantastic.
1:00:30 Dr. Nayan Patel: Let’s do my levels right now. It’s done. Once that levels are done, I can basically now in the future. I’m 47 right now. Let’s see if I get to 57 and I don’t feel good. Hey, at 47, I feel fantastic. What was the hormone levels back then? That becomes your benchmark. And that’s. I would love to have benchmarks for everybody. It’s not an easy thing to do because even during the day, the hormone levels will fluctuate, right?
1:00:57 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so it’s not one of those easy things to do. And so my hope is, instead of trying to achieve a laboratory number to feel balanced, is I want to teach people what it feels like to be in proper balance. If they can teach you how to feel like in proper balance, you can bring that feeling back to you by doing the right things. And if I teach people what to do, the right things, guess what? But we don’t have to tell them anything.
1:01:25 Dr. Nayan Patel: They will do it all the time.
1:01:29 B: Let’s talk about what that feels to be an optimal balance, because the whole time you’re talking, I was going to ask you, well, okay, well, if somebody goes to their doctor and they say, you know, I want to know what the optimal range is. Am I in the optimal range versus the normal? I don’t know if. I don’t know if everybody will have success in getting those answers. So we could ask that. But let’s talk about what it feels like instead.
1:01:58 Dr. Nayan Patel: Okay? So I can tell you what I feel like it, because I’m going through the changes myself. I’m 54 years old, and I can tell you what I feel like it. I have never been in a better shape in my life than today, ever. I feel like I’m in my optimal state right now as we speak week. And so I know what it feels like today, right? And so I can tell you what I feel like it. And hopefully people get something out of it, right?
1:02:25 Dr. Nayan Patel: So first of all, I sleep like a baby, right? My wife hates it because she goes, I just hit the. Hit the pillow. And on the next pillow, you are gone. Literally gone. Did you even hear the dog was barking at nighttime? I said, no, I did not hear my dog barking at nighttime.
1:02:47 D: Right.
1:02:48 Dr. Nayan Patel: I was gone, right? So I have a great sleep every day. It never used to be that way. I had my stressors in my businesses and I had a lot of issues that, that I. In the past, I. My sleep was always broken. Sleeps four hours, six hours, and it’s nothing. Nothing crazy like that. I keep up all the time. Time. So anyways, that’s my number one thing. Number two things is that my body movement, my whole body moves absolutely perfect right now is. Can I do better? Absolutely.
1:03:22 Dr. Nayan Patel: I can’t do gymnastics right now. Not that I. I was able to do it when I was a young kid either. But I’m getting to a stage where my body feels good. I can walk without any pain. I can walk for miles and miles without having any issues. I can run if I want to. I can do, I can stretch, I can, can, I can do a lot of things with my body that I have never used to do before.
1:03:45 D: Right.
1:03:46 Dr. Nayan Patel: And I don’t exercise. And so that tells me that, hey, when your body feels good, exercise could be overrated. I mean, it’s not underrated for sure. People need to exercise every day. But it could be that too much is also not good for you.
1:04:02 D: Right.
1:04:04 Dr. Nayan Patel: So that’s what I feel like it. Third thing is that again, I only eat real food most of the time. I have no issues with having food cravings anymore. Food is, I eat because I need nutrition for my body, not because, oh my God, let’s have a get together, let’s have some pizza night or have some beers and watch TV together, watch some sports game together. There’s no social events around food for me at all.
1:04:34 D: Right.
1:04:34 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so when I, when I’m in an event or if I ever been gathering with some, with my friends and family, we have an intellectual conversation. It’s about conversing. It’s not about let’s get together, order some, order some food and let’s enjoy. No food is an aftermath. The real joy is for meeting people, understanding what’s going on in your life. How are you feeling today? How have you made yourself better from, from yesterday, understanding that whole situation and hopefully uplifting everybody around you.
1:05:10 D: Right.
1:05:11 Dr. Nayan Patel: My thinking capacity, my, my, my mental clarity at this point is amazing.
1:05:17 D: Right.
1:05:18 Dr. Nayan Patel: I, I, I had a good memory to begin with, so it’s not like I had a bad memory. But over the last 10 years or so my memory was kind of letting a little sluggish a little bit bit. I’m back today. It’s, my memory is just absolutely perfect right now. It’s just amazing. It’s not like I can do calculus in the back of my mind right now at this point. But what I’m trying to say is my memory is great. I remember things I, I, I’m able to comprehend better. I’m supposed to read better. I read faster as well.
1:05:46 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so all those things are playing a vital part in my life. Physical, physically. Right, right. Sexual performance, sexual stimulations is, is amazing. What else? My, my, all my nails growing.
1:06:04 D: Right.
1:06:04 Dr. Nayan Patel: My, my, all my, my healing of my skin and healing my body from inside. Just the glow on the face and the, and, and the aura that I create around me is I get people all the time say, hey, I like to be around you because you’re always smiling and you’re always. You make us feel happy.
1:06:21 D: Right?
1:06:21 Dr. Nayan Patel: And that’s, and that’s radiating positive energy there never used to be like this before. That’s what balance to me feels like it to me right now. Of course, everybody has a different balance and structure. Can I do. I’m able to manage stress better because over time I have figured out to let things go and if I let things go, that those things don’t. Should not be affecting me. The only person that can hurt me right now are the people that really care about deeply.
1:06:54 Dr. Nayan Patel: They’re the only one who, who can hurt me at this point.
1:06:57 D: Right.
1:06:58 Dr. Nayan Patel: So I’ve learned to let things go as much as possible anyway. So that’s. To me, that’s what balance feels like it. I don’t. Well, guys, I don’t have hot fashions or night sweats or things like that, but I understand what, what ladies have to go through it. And for the, for the, for the females, it’s a little different because the hormone cycles are there to procreate. And if your body’s not able to procreate, the body goes into depression too, and it shows up on your face.
1:07:29 Dr. Nayan Patel: You’re not depressed by yourself, but the body’s feeling sad that, oh my God, I’m getting old and I cannot procreate anymore.
1:07:36 D: Right, right.
1:07:37 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so that feeling has to be suppressed or overcome by other parts of your life that brings joy. And so I, I truly believe that for, for, for, for females. Females are. They have like what we call. They have the ocean of love. Right. They have so much love to give.
1:08:00 D: Right.
1:08:00 Dr. Nayan Patel: They just. Absolutely full of love to, to provide them. But you gotta love yourself first.
1:08:10 D: Right?
1:08:11 Dr. Nayan Patel: Try to love. Learn to love yourself first every part of your body. You know, trust me, I, I have doctors. They live by pointing out problems on your face and your body and your, and everything else. Because that’s, that’s, that’s the thing. Oh, I can take this. I can zap them all away from you. What more? Oh, this one over here. That never bothered me. I’m sorry. I’m not. I know you see it. I don’t see it.
1:08:36 Dr. Nayan Patel: So learn to love yourself first. And then if everything starts happening, makes life a lot more easier. I don’t know if I answer the question or not, but this is what, this is what it feels like to me.
1:08:48 B: No, that answered it. Perfectly. And in all honesty, you know, it really, it really affects me mentally when either a client, a friend, a family member, whoever it is, says, oh, I’m just getting older, this is what happens. No, it doesn’t need to always be that way. And so you just talking about your experience is such a beautiful, a beautiful example of how that is not true. That is not always true. You decide, yes, there’s other factors at play, but ultimately you decide how you’re moving forward.
1:09:33 B: And so I would love to talk about both sides of the coin here. Let’s talk about men. We’re going to get to you here in a moment, so hang tight. But let’s, let’s. Since we’re talking about perimenopause, menopause and that side of the coin, let’s continue on that. And men, you’re coming up here soon, so let’s talk about. So say somebody, they work on their stress, they’re working on their diet, they’re working on their thyroid, you know, and trying to manage that. Now comes the sex hormones, or just hormones in general.
1:10:05 B: Let’s talk about what this may look like. If we are looking at common question that I get all the time is about BHRT or bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. Let’s talk about that. How can that support a woman through this phase and help to bring some healing? But also, what are some of the misconceptions and what do women need to know when being healthy and moving forward with this kind of therapy versus maybe choosing a different route?
1:10:40 Dr. Nayan Patel: Absolutely. So when it comes to hormone replacement therapy, we can only replace hormones that, that are produced inside our body. And so I want to be very, very crystal clear about this thing. Our body does not produce plant hormones. Our body does not produce pigs or horses hormones. Our body produces human hormones only. So if you want to replace what your body is missing, you have to replace it with the human hormones.
1:11:12 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s what the term bioidentical comes into play. It’s identical to, to our own biology. Okay, so in the past, in back in the 60s, people were taking horses urine, which had some horses hormones inside. And that’s great for horses, but for humans it was not a good option.
1:11:34 D: Right.
1:11:35 Dr. Nayan Patel: So if you’re taking a synthetic form of hormones, yes, that’s great for a pharmaceutical company because they can have a patent on it and they have a new molecule patents on it. But in reality that this is not what our body produces. So if you’re dealing with hormone replacement therapy, you have to be dealing with something Called bio identical, which is identical to our own human biology. And by the way, all the human ethical hormones are approved by fda.
1:12:06 Dr. Nayan Patel: All of them are. So it’s not like they’re not, they’re not been approved. What they don’t approve is all the various dosage forms and ways to give it to you, to make it unique for you. That’s what they don’t approve. They approve one dose form and say, hey, here’s the position capsules of it. It’s, it’s, it’s approved by fda. What if I, if I want to create team or suppository or something or drops because that’s what I absorb. This is, this is what I need to be at.
1:12:37 Dr. Nayan Patel: Oh, no, that’s only the only thing we make. Everything else, it’s not, it’s not approved by fda. And so customization comes into play because as I said earlier, everybody’s balance is different. Everybody feels different. And so getting the right hormones to them in the right dosage form, in the right concentration is very critical call giving hormone is the easiest part, by the way, right? You come to me, I do, I ask you a bunch of questions and literally it’ll take me two minutes to identify all your hormone irregularities and give you prescriptions.
1:13:14 Dr. Nayan Patel: Easy. That’s the easy part, right? How your body is going to respond to it is the second challenge. And I can fix that too. But the third part, part is if you do not go back and fix your diet and your stress, the hormones are going to be constantly, constantly, constantly changing. And I’ll be chasing the tail forever and never get you in proper balance. And you’ll never be able to feel completely fulfilled with the hormone replacement therapy.
1:13:50 Dr. Nayan Patel: So when it comes to females until the, until they hit menopause, the issue is they’re producing all the hormones. The problem is not that they don’t have enough hormones. The problem is, guess what? The hormones are out of balance. That’s all it is, right? If something’s out of balance, let’s see, in your house, you have, you have five people living in the house. I’m just guessing. I’m just picking a number.
1:14:18 Dr. Nayan Patel: Okay? It could not be true for your house. Let me say in my house, there are five people in my house, okay? If everybody’s crazy, if I can just fix one person, which is the mom, she can fix all of us, right? If I just get mom under control, somehow mom will fix the husband and the kids and the dog and everybody, right? So to me, what is that one moment of all the Hormones that I need to regulate. If I can get that enough of that one, everything else falls into place.
1:14:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: That particular hormone is progesterone. So if I just manage your progesterone therapy and bury the positional hormone, your estrogens, your testosterone, your dhea, everything falls into place. And so until you hit menopause, most of the time, the only thing you’ll need is natural biological progesterone therapy. And the doses are all over the place. I can get you balanced at 50 milligrams per day, and I have used up to 2.2,
1:15:27 Dr. Nayan Patel: 4002004 milligrams per day to get the, to achieve the same balance. And it’s everybody, everybody in between. Okay. Okay. So what works for one person may not work for somebody else. So it just, it’s going to be arbitrary, right? It’s going to be. We just have to keep on working at it, trying to figure out what, what creates the balance. Once we create the balance at a very high stage, can I recreate it at a lower stage?
1:15:52 Dr. Nayan Patel: Because the lower stage, less side effects, less problems, easy to manage.
1:15:58 D: Right.
1:15:59 Dr. Nayan Patel: And if. Can I go even lower than that? Possible.
1:16:02 D: Right.
1:16:03 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so as long as I get the response I’m looking for and not affecting any other health, like bone health, your, your heart health, your brain health, I like to get the hormones as low as possible without having any problems. And until you hit menopause, there’s only one thing you need is progesterone therapy. Trying to figure out how to recreate a balance again. By the way, progesterone is not going to fix your insulin in your nutrition habits.
1:16:30 Dr. Nayan Patel: It’s not going to freeze your stressors. It’s going to help you with the depression, anxiety, mood swings and things like that. But that’s not a stressors. Stress is something that’s affecting you from outside. Stress is something that’s affecting you from inside. Like an infection or disease or something that you got right, or toxicities that you have built up over time, or the alcohol that you drink every day or once a week, whatever that is.
1:16:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s what stressors are, right? Right. And so it doesn’t do that part, but it affects everything else. And when it goes to menopause, menopause, unfortunately, all the workload is shifted from the ovaries to the adrenal glands. And the adrenal glands is there to manage your stress for you. And you just said that, hey, 4750, this is your chance to become a CEO of a company or have a High promotion of of within organization because you paid your dues for the last 20, 30 years in this company and now is your time to start progressing the ladder and taking on more stress on you.
1:17:32 Dr. Nayan Patel: But your adrenal glands is. Wait a second. I got a second job. I got to produce more hormones for you. Don’t give me more stress. You can’t do that. So you got to rest adrenal glands to manage your other outside stressors. And so for that purposes, giving a full set of hormones that your ovaries were producing once is a normal progression. And it’s healthier because guess what, it’s allowing your drill glands to flourish and manage your outside stressors and help you give a leg up in in other parts of your life.
1:18:05 Dr. Nayan Patel: And that can bring calmness, serenity, fulfillment, all those things that you’re looking for in your life as well out. But you got to need to have the hormones to make sure they take the stress away from the adrenal glands.
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1:19:35 B: That’s so helpful. That is so helpful. I like how you broke it down and really helped to understand when you need to start looking into that and also that you don’t necessarily need the big bells and whistles, that it’s really so simple and if you focus on just that, progesterone, at least to start out and see, see how that helps to manage it.
1:20:00 Dr. Nayan Patel: Yeah, that’s right. For the perimenopause PMS as early as the first period of your cycle, like you could be 12 years old and here it’s your first period. You can take progesterone to basically regulate your periods. Once that is balanced off you, off you go. There’s no need to rebalance again. You’ll be fine until hopefully until the 2021. Read this again one more time, maybe a few months, balance off, let them go and go back and then, then you hit 35ish, then you’ll be stuck on the position for long periods of time because now it’s, you probably had a couple of babies, you had a job, you have stressors, you had a starter homes already moved in.
1:20:42 Dr. Nayan Patel: You know, there’s a lot of things just happened, a lot of moving parts in you know, 35 year old female life.
1:20:49 B: All right, we need to talk about the men. I don’t, they’re probably sitting here. What about us? What about us? So let’s talk about men. What do men over 40 need to really understand about testosterone decline and how it can really quietly impact their energy levels, motivation, relationships, just overall health in general.
1:21:09 Dr. Nayan Patel: So I’m going to bust the bubble for the testosterone for guys right now. Over the last 30, 40 years the testosterone levels for guys have plummeted it.
1:21:20 D: Right.
1:21:21 Dr. Nayan Patel: Yet there’s no reduction in a Brit to produce babies. Okay, so what’s going on? Okay, people think testosterone is the answer for all male problems.
1:21:38 D: Right.
1:21:38 Dr. Nayan Patel: The answer is far beyond testosterone. Like women, men have to also to deal with, with all the other issues to go along with it. Now I understand if you’re under the age of 40, yes. I understand that testosterone stimulations can actually help improve your, your overall, what is called body or overall mental focus. Everything, everything that you think about for a guy, for guys mostly is the, the physical appearance, the mental status and the drive to do an everything they wanted to get is what comes from the go hormones of testosterone.
1:22:24 Dr. Nayan Patel: But for guys, keep in mind it’s the same thing. Stress management, diet management, th management and then it comes to sexual which is testosterone and dhea. And most guys, they aren’t going to the period, they’re not procreating, they don’t have the ups and downs of the, in the life. It’s a slow gradual decline over time. And what speeds up the process is stress and food. So if you’re drinking alcohol and eating processed foods and processed wings, pizzas and junk food that is affecting your testosterone.
1:23:03 Dr. Nayan Patel: Don’t expect me to do any miracles if you don’t change your diet in the first place. And so for the guys, again I have guys that I treat them, they take a very low testosterone levels like 10 to 15 milligrams per day. And I have guys that are taking shots of 100, 200 milligrams, up to 400 milligrams a week. I mean that is barbarous. That is way more than what your bodies intend to have it. Oh, I need this. I’m a big guy. I’m a £300, all muscle. I need that level. So my bodyguard, I need this, this much testosterone.
1:23:41 Dr. Nayan Patel: And the, in the reality of the whole thing is that if you’re naturally producing that part, great. But if you’re not naturally producing that part, the body is not equipped to deal with so much of excess hormones. Keep in mind your body has to deal with everything underactive as well as, as overactive testosterone replacement therapy because we don’t have warehouses in the body to store excess chemicals.
1:24:13 Dr. Nayan Patel: If you take, if you take more than what your body needs, the body’s going to figure out what I want to do with this thing. I got to figure out how to dump it now. So bodies to do work harder to dump it. I’d rather give the exact amount your body needs so they can use it and feel good about it. And why put through extra work, right? So when it comes to testosterone therapy, it’s more towards combining the diet nutrition with hormone replacement therapies is what my go to motto is.
1:24:42 Dr. Nayan Patel: Now I understand stress is the big, big component for it and the society has, has kind of flagged male as the breadwinner. And they’re, they think they’re the only one has to go get the job and make money for the whole family. And that’s what we have been brought up this way for our whole life. So it’s like ingredient brains that we have to do all this work and they put undue stress on the body and we’re not able to communicate very easily with our spouses. I have a hard time communicating those kinds of feelings as well.
1:25:16 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so it increases stress on, on, on, on our part as well. And if that’s happening to you, you and if you talk to somebody, go get counseling. I’m, I strongly suggest to do that part about beyond anything that I do because you got to figure out how to communicate and get your feelings out. If you have no feelings, there’s something that you’re suppressing that you’re not able to feel anything.
1:25:45 D: Right.
1:25:45 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so to get the feelings back you have to, to unblock it or take the stone off of that, that, that big feelings chart that you have just and just and so you can start feeling it again. But anyway, so that’s, that’s the first thing stress is, is the number one thing that in, in men’s life. And we got to learn how to deal with stress. I mean, I have friends that tell me, hey, let’s meditate together.
1:26:13 Dr. Nayan Patel: Ah, that, that fufu stuff is not for me me, you know, it’s like, I don’t. And I, I did for a couple days. I didn’t, did not do anything for me. I said, no, it’s. It’s just a way of life anyway, say, hey, let’s eat some healthy foods over here. Yeah, Yeah. I only meet you once a week, so I’m gonna just go to pig out. Whatever, whatever we get. This is, it’s more about us being together than the food itself. I said, yeah, we can do that part too. But let’s not consume junk food while we are, while we’re meeting and conversing over here either.
1:26:43 D: Right?
1:26:43 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so start making those simple adjustments, simple rules and, and things like that can go miles away. And when it comes to replacement, replace what your body’s actually making. A body doesn’t make anymore more than 10, like 9 or 10 milligrams per day for men. Very small amount.
1:27:03 D: Right.
1:27:03 Dr. Nayan Patel: If you think about muscle mass after 40 of age for men, the muscle mass is not stimulated by hormones. It’s stimulated by proteins and amino acids. So it’s absolute nutrition is the number one thing. Like in my water over here right now, guess what? I have amino acids because I’m at the age of 54 right now that I can take testosterone if I wanted. I have my own pharmacy. I can shoot up whatever I want. I can have a doctor write me prescriptions all day long.
1:27:37 Dr. Nayan Patel: But that’s not what’s going to solve my problem. My solution is that I need to have everything in proper balance. Work on my stress, work on my diet. And my diet is I have proteins. I can’t eat proteins because proteins, if you eat a fish or a steak or whatever, the body should break it down. Use a cell of the energy to break it down, absorbs the amino acids and used to rebuild your proteins in your body.
1:28:01 Dr. Nayan Patel: What if I just take a protein, some from the get go and I don’t have to break it down anymore? Hey, hallelujah. It’s so much easier for me. And the body will respond better and faster to it. And that’s what I’m saying. I feel so good right now.
1:28:15 D: Right?
1:28:15 Dr. Nayan Patel: I can. I’m flexible a little bit more than I ever been before. I have a muscle Mass that I had never before. And I don’t exercise at all now. If they ask me to compete at Mr. Olympia, you’ll never see me there for sure. But at the same time, that’s not my goal in the first place. My goal is to have healthy aging.
1:28:34 D: Right.
1:28:35 Dr. Nayan Patel: And that’s what I look at it myself. And for men, it’s just testosterone. If you have some issues with the brain fogs and things like that, DHA seems to be helping them a lot. And so I use dha, pregnenolone. And if that works, guess what? Your stress is too high because DHA counterbalances cortisol. So if the DHA works for your mental clarity, I’m telling you stress is too high. You got to figure things out really fast.
1:28:59 D: Past.
1:29:00 Dr. Nayan Patel: How can you offer someone’s stresses? Oh, no, this is, this is my identity. Everybody’s stuck for who they are and they’re stuck behind this facade. Oh, say, oh, no, no, I’m so and so. I’m a motivational speaker. I do this for a living. I help other people. Who’s going to help you?
1:29:20 D: Right?
1:29:20 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so that’s where, that’s where I come into play. So anyways, hormone placement therapy is doable. I think is. Is over prescribed in that sense. Sense. I think you just have tore it down. But then bring the other modalities in your life and see and feel the balance. When you feel that thing, it’s the best thing you’d have for your life.
1:29:41 B: Yeah. And unfortunately, I feel society really encourages hormone imbalances for men. Between expectations of maybe being the breadwinner or stress in their work and climbing the ladder in their corporate job or whatever it may be all the way up to bottling up your feelings. No, you can’t talk about that. That’s not manly, right? Like, it’s just, it’s. Yeah, it’s just really. I, I know the difficulties from the female perspective, but I can only imagine the difficulties then as well of trying to get balanced out in a healthy way, in a sustainable way from a male perspective.
1:30:27 Dr. Nayan Patel: And again, male men are not very high to. On the empathy chart. They cannot complement both sides of the brain. So it’s very hard to articulate the feeling. Sometimes they’re more like a rational people than more than emotional.
1:30:43 B: Yeah. Well, Dr. Nyan, you know, as we start, as we start, you know, easing into the end of this podcast episode today, I have to ask you, I want to talk a little bit about your book that came out. I mean, you’ve done some groundbreaking work with glutathione. And I feel like we would really be throwing away a great chance of tying this all together and talking about your work in glutathione, your book, and how this master antioxidant really plays into the bigger picture of hormone balancing and aging in general.
1:31:23 B: So can we just talk a little bit about that? And I would love for you to tell us about your book.
1:31:28 Dr. Nayan Patel: Absolutely. I’ll give a short, brief intro about that glutathione projects I’ve been working on the forward 20, 25 plus years.
1:31:36 B: Oh, is that all?
1:31:39 Dr. Nayan Patel: And it was one of those things. It was, I was very intrigued earlier in my life that hey, if I can crack the code of glutathione, I think I can crack a coat of longevity pretty, pretty easily. And that was my ultimate goal. And of course I was making money selling hormones and doing hormone replacement therapy and helping patients feel better and live better. But the thing is, what I was, what I was not getting is that I was not able to detoxify people from the old habits and getting rid of the alcohols from the liver and getting rid of all the toxic chemicals they’re exposed to and things and things like that.
1:32:13 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so the only thing that came in mind was glutathione. But there was no product in the world that actually did any work that worked 100% for everybody.
1:32:22 D: Right.
1:32:22 Dr. Nayan Patel: And the reason is because nothing gets inside your body. So in my research, I quickly realized this was back in 2007, I discovered a novel way to stabilize glutathione outside the body and introduce to you through your skin intracellularly that can get it by the mitochondria where it does all the work. It’s like I figured out how to get to your wallet and put money in there whenever, every day, no matter where you are.
1:32:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: Whoa.
1:32:53 D: Right?
1:32:54 Dr. Nayan Patel: It’s not like giving you stocks and bonds. I said, no, no, I’ll get you hard all cash in your wallet every day that you can use up. And that was the hardest thing to do for all 140 plus years. And so from 2007, when I first discovered, it was too early in the career for me to launch the product because there was no studies done in the whole world. The, the TIK never existed in the whole world. So we have a worldwide patents right now we have about eight patents are put on this, in, on, on this technology in this part.
1:33:22 Dr. Nayan Patel: But the thing is, I had to figure out how much to give you, how often to give you. Am I going to get Results. What results I’m going to get again, am I going to get results on everybody is somebody, what patient populations can I give to young kids can I give to pregnant ladies? I had way too many questions than answers at that point at, at this, at this time. So 14 years of research on doing, getting all these answers as much as I can before I launched my company to sell the glutathione.
1:33:49 Dr. Nayan Patel: And the first 12 years of research is what I, what I put in my book. It’s called the glutathione revolution. The word revolution is an understatement because if you understand what glutathione can do for you and the way the technology that works right now can, can, can enhance the impact of glutan in your body, the word revolution is just not doing justice to the, to the molecule. For us. It, it is, it is by far the most important molecule not just for today, but for generations to come to understand how we can, how we can improve within our body.
1:34:29 Dr. Nayan Patel: So, so that’s my work. Glutathione is a tripeptide produced in the human body. You say the antioxidant. It’s a mass antioxidant. That’s just one of the functions. Unfortunately it’s a main function because it neutralizes all the free radicals that you’re exposed to on a daily basis. I mean, you need oxygen to survive. If you don’t breathe oxygen for five minutes, you’ll be dead. So you need oxygen to survive. So that’s not going to go away.
1:34:53 Dr. Nayan Patel: But the oxygen that is, is, that is not used up, becomes free radical, causes damage to the body. And those free radicals has to be neutralized and the body produces glutathione to neutralize those free radicals. And if you don’t do that part within a year or two, your body will be completely toxic and rusted from inside. Like, like, like physically rusted from inside. And that’s when people die without having any glutathione levels. And so having those levels optimizes is always a key component. But that’s one function. The second function that glutathione does, which is even more important than, than oxidative stress, is to reduce or conjugate all the chemicals and metabolites in your liver and get rid of it.
1:35:36 Dr. Nayan Patel: Give an example. If you take estrogens, all estrogens will, will get broken down to various metabolites in your liver. And some you can measure the urine and some you cannot not right this metabolites, some are active and some are inactive. Regardless if they’re active or inactive, they have to be conjugated. And, and getting rid of your body glutathione aids in the process of conjugation and helping get rid of all the chemicals, heavy metals, metabolites, everything that we exposed to on a daily basis. And by the way, if you tell, oh, tell me I’m very healthy, very clear.
1:36:14 Dr. Nayan Patel: Exposed to anything else. Else, Trust me, by the time you wake up in the morning and you leave your house in the first hour, you’re exposed to at least 70 different chemicals. At least. Look at toothpaste, about 78 different chemicals. Look at your soap, 10, 15 different chemicals, right? Your shampoo, your conditioners, your, your makeups. And I mean, the list will go on and on and on. By the time you figure out, oh my gosh, bad.
1:36:42 Dr. Nayan Patel: The 70 is an understatement. By the, by the, in the whole day, you’re exposed to at least 150 different chemicals and some of them are carcinogenic. You have to get rid of it no matter what, right? And when you’re young, you do it easily. As you start getting older, starting at age of 30, your gluten level starts depleting. You need to, you need help. And that’s another reason why I feel so fantastic at the age of 54. Because guess what?
1:37:11 Dr. Nayan Patel: What? I use glutan every day. I’ve been, it’s just been an absolute game changer in my family and my friend circle. They cannot live without it anymore. It is, it is something that gives you energy, gives, it just brings a peace. Reduce oxo stress down. And people say all the time, oh, I don’t have, I have no oxy stress. I said, I say you’re com. You’re confused with oxo stress and mental stress. That’s two different things.
1:37:42 Dr. Nayan Patel: Oxid stress is, everybody has it. Every single human being has it, right? Because you breathe oxygen, you’re going to have some stress.
1:37:52 B: Now, obviously everybody’s going to get your book and know exactly what’s going on in with glutathione and how to optimize it. But just very briefly, if somebody wants to start taking some glutathione today, how much, how much would you recommend that somebody starts with sure.
1:38:10 Dr. Nayan Patel: So there’s three things you can do. One is, my grandpa used to say that, you know, when you grow up, you don’t need more money. What you need is reduced expenses. So the first thing you do is reduce your exposure expenses that deplete glutathione level. The number one product that you consume knowingly is alcohol. It’s a solvent that depletes gluten levels to zero. For the next three or four hours it will come back again.
1:38:44 Dr. Nayan Patel: But for the next three or four hours you have no glutathione levels. So stop drinking alcohol. Stop smoking. While alcohol is an acute problem like happens and it goes away. Smoking is a chronic issue. That means you are exposing your process of combustion inside your lungs. That glutathione has to aid in the process of detoxification. The whole whole time is constantly trying to clean the lungs all the time. And dep levels anyways.
1:39:11 Dr. Nayan Patel: Exposure to pollution, toxicity, sun, sunlights, all, all things like that. So the first you got to do is reduce your expenses that depreciate glutathione. Level one, cheap, easy, free. Number two, cheap, easy and free. Only consume products that are high on the. There’s. There’s three amino acids. Glycine, glutamine and cysteine. Now I can assure you glycine and glutamine is their abundant. Your diet, most of the food you eat is you’re going to have those, those two amino acids.
1:39:43 Dr. Nayan Patel: The ones that’s going to lack is a cysteine. It’s a stinky foods, right? Cysteine is something people don’t eat all the time. So I would suggest that you open up your favorite search engine or your AI robot. Ask the question, hey, what are 16 rich foods? They can give options. Vegans, vegetarians, Omnivore, Carnivore, Mediterranean Paleo. I don’t care what diet plan you follow, you get choices. These choices are there for rest of your life on a daily basis.
1:40:12 Dr. Nayan Patel: Don’t eat the avocado that’s suggested every single day. But you can have it something from that list every single day. You’re going to eat food anyways. Might as well food that gives some nourishment to your body.
1:40:24 D: Body, right.
1:40:26 Dr. Nayan Patel: And just to give you an idea. No, pizza does not have cysteine in there. Sorry. Okay. In fact actually it does have a little bit of cysteine because of the cheese in there. The whey proteins have a little bit of cysteine in there. But that’s just a given report that junk food not an option. Anyways, that’s number two things. The third thing you do is supplementation. Now supplementation, there are some choices available.
1:40:51 Dr. Nayan Patel: You have your intravenous form, your oral capsules, the liposome technology products and then of course the technology that, that we developed in my lab which is a topical solution. There’s three different things out there. IVs, 1991 research was done that by injecting gluten intravenously. There was no gluten found in the red blood cells. 0,100% was in the plasma. The plasma got filtered by the kidneys every five to 15 minutes. Everything was dumped in the urine and nothing was available for the body to observe.
1:41:26 Dr. Nayan Patel: That’s intravenous glutathione. It still works. It still works. Why? Because what they found out was about, about an hour and a half or two hours later, they saw a rise of cysteine in the blood. What was happening was the body was actually breaking out the glutathione, reabsorbing the cysteine as a, as a nutrient and using that to make its own glutathione again.
1:41:49 D: Whoa.
1:41:51 Dr. Nayan Patel: That means the body is too smart. Even if you take a pill, you’re not going to absorb it. You’re just going to break it down and take what it needs and make it make your own medicine. So what do you think happened to the oral capsules and the liposome technology product? Exact same thing. The body breaks it down, absorb the amino acids, use the amids to make its own glutathione out. Doesn’t absorb.
1:42:15 Dr. Nayan Patel: Does not absorb at all. So when you ask me how much to give you, how many milligrams to give you because don’t know. Well, most of Dr. Tell you. Well, depends on what your problems are. No, no, I have an answer for you. I don’t care what the problems are. Your knees are anywhere from 100, 200 milligrams period in the topical form. That’s it. That’s it. I don’t care who you are.
1:42:41 D: Right.
1:42:42 Dr. Nayan Patel: Well, if you’re a young like a toddler, one year old, two years, then it’s a different story. But adults, I’m talking about adults right now. So topical solution that we created, which is the glutathione, topically a gluteal is a brand name, is you just apply 100 milligrams twice a day and then that is almost 100 replacement of a body’s production. So you have everything you need. And imagine, imagine your wallet is almost full of your daily expenses money.
1:43:10 Dr. Nayan Patel: So let’s you spend about 100 bucks a day every day on, on groceries and things and that and this and that. If I put 100 bucks every single day in your wallet, hey, your basic needs are met. Keep in mind, glutathione is the most abundant molecule producing human body body. And if that is already given to you, then the body goes, wait a second. My only job is to produce glutathione and that’s taking care of it.
1:43:40 Dr. Nayan Patel: The rest of the things I can do so efficiently healing the body, rejuvenating the body, detoxifying the body, getting the trash out of the body, everything is hyperactivated now. That’s what glutathione does. So, so the dose is four sprays twice a day of the glutaryl. If you are, if you have some conditions where your needs are extremely high, you can take the plus version which is the glutal plus and use that four sprays twice a day and that’s it.
1:44:10 Dr. Nayan Patel: There’s other dosages.
1:44:13 B: Wow, this has been a great conversation. So fascinating. I love how you just laid everything out. I mean there was so many ahas and points that I had along the line just to understand and clear away some of the fog that I have seen and have experienced. So thank you.
1:44:31 Dr. Nayan Patel: Absolutely.
1:44:33 B: Dr. Nayan, where can people find you?
1:44:36 Tansy Rodgers: Where are you hanging out?
1:44:37 B: What are you excited about in your work right now?
1:44:41 Dr. Nayan Patel: So my pharmacy website, so I’m a company pharmacist so we have pharmacy, we service like 30, 32, 34 states in the United States so we ship all over the country by the hormones. Is centraldrugsrx.com It’s C-E-N T R A L D R U g s r x.com that’s what my pharmacy is. That’s where, that’s where I hang out most of the time for my job. But my heart is at Orow Wellness A u r o wellness.com because this is where I do my research, this is where I write my blog articles and I’m thinking and trying to find solutions for my customers because I have very high end customers list and I want to help them achieve the best health they can have even at the age of 100 and to do so I need products that can get there for them.
1:45:43 Dr. Nayan Patel: And so these are two places I am subscribe to a newsletter, visit the websites, reach out, you know if you email to them and if you address it to me they will forward to.
1:45:55 B: Me directly and I’ll have all of those, those links down in the show notes for you to easily get into his world. Yes. Thank you, amazing conversation. Thank you so much. Do you have any last words that you want to lay onto the hearts of the listeners today before we sign off?
1:46:15 Dr. Nayan Patel: Well, two things. There’s always there’s no, there’s always one thing. There’s two things. The first of all, I just, I just want to make sure people that, hey, if you want to try glutathione, I think it’s, it’s going to be a game changer for everybody that I’ve come across. So please give it a shot for at least 30 days. But more importantly, what you’re doing right now, Tanzi, is it’s an amazing work.
1:46:42 Dr. Nayan Patel: Work. Because podcasting is not easy. Bringing information, bringing guests and arranging all this thing is not easy. It’s not free, for sure. It costs you money to bring this message out there. And so listeners, I want listeners to make sure they appreciate what you have done over here. And if they can share this message, this podcast with 10 of the people to bring highlight or to highlight your work work, I want to make sure that they can do that for you because the amount of work it takes to. Because I want to do podcasts myself, but I see the amount of work it requires, oh my God, it’s too much work and you’re doing it already.
1:47:22 Dr. Nayan Patel: And I want people to make sure they support you. So please send this podcast links out to 10 of the people that you have never heard us this before and so they can spread the word for her because she really deserves this too happen.
1:47:35 B: Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. And thank you so much for being on the show today and for sharing your wisdom, your heart, your passion. And by the way, you are always smiling. I understand why people say it is so addicting to be around you because you just, you can just feel the lift of the energy. So thank you so much for the work that you’re doing. I appreciate you.
1:48:00 Dr. Nayan Patel: My pleasure. Thank you.
1:48:02 Tansy Rodgers: This conversation with Dr. Nayann Patel reminded me of something I think that we all need to hear. Fatigue isn’t laziness. Anxiety isn’t your fault. And struggling to feel good in your own skin isn’t something that you have to just accept. Your hormones are messengers. And when they’re off, they’re not punishing you. They’re inviting you to listen more deeply, to question the normal, and to reconnect to your body’s inner wisdom.
1:48:35 Tansy Rodgers: So as you move through this week, I want you to ask yourself, where am I overriding my body’s whispers? What small shift could help me feel more balanced, more energized, or more whole? And what would it look like to treat myself as the expert of my own body? If this episode sparked something inside of you, share it out with a friend or leave a review to help this show land in the hands of more heart centered seekers like you.
1:49:10 Tansy Rodgers: This is how the show grows. This is the greatest gift that you could give me for listening to this show show and for doing this podcast. And hey, don’t forget to check out the show notes for your discounted links, upcoming events and more support as you.
1:49:29 B: Heal your way home.
1:49:31 Tansy Rodgers: Until next time, keep spreading that beautiful energy you were born to share.
